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joeyjoejoejr Oct 24, 2006 12:28am

Flopped a flush
 
$196 for me to call all in on turn. I folded, would you?

FullTiltPoker Game #1135095932: Table Orange Vale - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:45:17 ET - 2006/10/22
Seat 1: muchdutch33 ($182.90)
Seat 2: Flop Fan ($237.05)
Seat 3: dcowboys92683 ($201.05)
Seat 4: chicagcubs ($417.20)
Seat 5: kizo11 ($250.65)
Seat 6: Acvitt ($53.40), is sitting out
Seat 7: mlsux ($510.45)
Seat 8: SteveTJQKA ($206.05)
Seat 9: joeyjoejr ($343.70)
chicagcubs posts the small blind of $1
kizo11 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joeyjoejr [7c 8c]
mlsux calls $2
SteveTJQKA folds
joeyjoejr raises to $7
muchdutch33 folds
Flop Fan folds
dcowboys92683 folds
chicagcubs calls $6
kizo11 folds
mlsux calls $5
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ac 2c]
chicagcubs bets $20
mlsux calls $20
joeyjoejr raises to $60
chicagcubs calls $40
mlsux folds
*** TURN *** [Tc Ac 2c] [6s]
chicagcubs checks
joeyjoejr bets $80
chicagcubs has 15 seconds left to act
chicagcubs raises to $350.20, and is all in
joeyjoejr: nice
joeyjoejr has 15 seconds left to act
joeyjoejr folds

CBone Oct 24, 2006 12:33am

Definitely not.

Geth Oct 24, 2006 1:10am

u already invested 147$ of ur 343$ stack and u have a monster, no way u can fold that

DoubleU Oct 24, 2006 7:10am

No. You're up against a set or AT here more often than a higher flush, I'd say...

Rafvdv Oct 24, 2006 3:45pm

if I flop a flush and someone else flopped a higher flush, then I'm giving My chips away.

don't see a way out of that hand unless a card like Qc would have fallen on the turn.

I would put him on a set or A10 or TPTK with nutflush draw. also doesn't make sence that he wants to bet you out of the pot with the nuts. Call.

And don't shoot me for this if I'm wrong , but if you folded because it was $196 then I guess you should play on a limit where you feel comfortable with going AI.

BubbleBoy Oct 26, 2006 11:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafvdv (Post 358031)
if I flop a flush and someone else flopped a higher flush, then I'm giving My chips away.

I had this happen 2 times today in a row, just losing 2 buyins. It sucks. 1 time was the same situation like here.

I think it really depends on your opponent what to do. A really strong opponent wouldnt do this without the nuts or a very good read on you. And donks arent playing for hundreds of dollars.

you put in 140$, now its 200$ more to go for a pot of 680$. you would need to win more than 30% of the time. lets say chances he has a higher flush are 50-50, and chances he is to drawing to 10 outs the other 50%, you got roughly 40% at winning this, so calling would be correct.

but a very read depending calculation thou

spalding25 Oct 26, 2006 11:27pm

With the ace on the board I instantly call this on the turn.

tmp Oct 27, 2006 1:18am

I don't see how you can lay this down when there is no pair on the board. JTs not possible. It's KQs, KJs or QJs but I could not fear those hands enough to lay down my flush. I would say AT, TT, (22?) or AK with the Kc.

Ishbu3116 Oct 29, 2006 1:05pm

You raised preflop from EP (after a limper) so they are probably giving you credit for an Ace or a pair, none of which are suited with the board. So really they could have flopped two pair or have a set and think it is the best hand. If I limped into the pot this would be an easier fold but now with the way you have played this hand, I would think that they think I have AK and their set of TT's is probably good in their eyes. A weak fold in my book but you might have saved yourself a lot of money.

acehole_76 Oct 29, 2006 4:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleBoy (Post 359703)
I think it really depends on your opponent what to do. A really strong opponent wouldnt do this without the nuts or a very good read on you. And donks arent playing for hundreds of dollars.


Um yes there are. There are donkeys at every level...

Once you bet the $80, I think you have to call. Besides if he had a bigger flush I dont think he would of gone AI.


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