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PocketJokers Jun 29, 2010 1:37pm

Mexico Cruise + Poker
 
i am going on a 5 night cruise from New Orleans to Cozumel and Yucatan Mexico.

There are 2-3 days total at sea, where i will able to play some poker.

Anyone have any knowledge/experience/tips for what i should expect or do?

oh, its a carnival cruise so odds are there will be young lag tards

http://www.top-things-to-do.com/mexi...mel-island.jpg

DoubleU Jun 29, 2010 1:50pm

How much time do you have on Cozumel and in Yucatan (note spelling by the way :biggrin:)? I've spent some time there last year and loved it.

Edit: Also, have you been to Mexico before? Or the Caribbean?

Boilermaker Jun 29, 2010 2:54pm

I just took a Carnival cruise this month out of Tampa to Cozumel, Roatan, Belize and Caymans. Good times!

As for poker, Carnival typically has only one electronic poker table in their casinos (been on a few of their boats and this has been the case every time). On this last cruise they spread only 1/2 NL plus a couple $60 tourneys.

Even though there is no dealer, the rake is 10% up to a cap of $7 :shock: The players are amazingly awful, but with that rake and the fact most people are buying in for 50-100, you aren't going to get rich. There will be a couple regulars that play every night and a carousel of drunk people that don't understand poker. It is fun, but if you expect to make more than your drink bill you may be dissapointed.

PocketJokers Jun 29, 2010 3:03pm

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How much time do you have on Cozumel and in Yucatan (note spelling by the way )? I've spent some time there last year and loved it.

Edit: Also, have you been to Mexico before? Or the Caribbean?
I have never been on a cruise or anywhere near mexico before. The furthest south i have even been is Orlando, FL and Vegas. lol. Is there any specific spot i should go to in Yucatan or Cozumel? i will have 8 hours at both cities.


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Originally Posted by Boilermaker (Post 903386)
As for poker, Carnival typically has only one electronic poker table in their casinos (been on a few of their boats and this has been the case every time). On this last cruise they spread only 1/2 NL plus a couple $60 tourneys.

Even though there is no dealer, the rake is 10% up to a cap of $7 :shock: The players are amazingly awful, but with that rake and the fact most people are buying in for 50-100, you aren't going to get rich. There will be a couple regulars that play every night and a carousel of drunk people that don't understand poker. It is fun, but if you expect to make more than your drink bill you may be dissapointed.

Thanks boiler, the harsh reality makes it seem like i won't be able to make any significant amount of money, but i will probably play for some fun and entertainment. $7 capped rake with no dealer? terrible. I guess the drinks and hot women will have to distract me.

Boilermaker Jun 29, 2010 3:44pm

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 903391)
I have never been on a cruise or anywhere near mexico before. The furthest south i have even been is Orlando, FL and Vegas. lol. Is there any specific spot i should go to in Yucatan or Cozumel? i will have 8 hours at both cities.

We took the snorkeling+beach party excursion in Cozumel. It was really nice. You board a boat that goes to the south tip of Cozumel (~45 minute ride). Half way there you stop for snorkeling which was a fantastic location with a 20 foot depth reef. The beach was really nice with lots of activities. On the boat they served free margaritas both directions. It was a pretty good deal as far as excursions go.


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Thanks boiler, the harsh reality makes it seem like i won't be able to make any significant amount of money, but i will probably play for some fun and entertainment. $7 capped rake with no dealer? terrible. I guess the drinks and hot women will have to distract me.
The other sucky think about cruise boat casinos is they don't comp drinks. I would like to try one of cardplayer's official poker cruises - I bet that it a better structure for the players.

Nevertheless, I can't stress how bad the players are going to be - you won't get rich but barring a sick run of bad luck you should be up.

staphros Jun 29, 2010 4:40pm

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 903391)
I have never been on a cruise or anywhere near mexico before. The furthest south i have even been is Orlando, FL and Vegas. lol. Is there any specific spot i should go to in Yucatan or Cozumel? i will have 8 hours at both cities.




Thanks boiler, the harsh reality makes it seem like i won't be able to make any significant amount of money, but i will probably play for some fun and entertainment. $7 capped rake with no dealer? terrible. I guess the drinks and hot women will have to distract me.

You have seen too many fun ship adverts.

THe age break down for carnival is similar to other lines.

45% 50+ 35% 30-50 and 20% < 30 IMO.

Also what BM says about the poker is true. When I went they also spread 1/2 but had a ~$80 tourney where the winner gets a 'free' cruise to play in a final tourney for I think 100K.

One last tip when you play on the pokerpro table - use your seapass id card to show/hide your playing cards - using your hand is usually harder as the touch screns are not amazing.

http://www.pokertek.com/casinoproducts/

Boilermaker Jun 29, 2010 5:09pm

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Originally Posted by staphros (Post 903414)

Also what BM says about the poker is true. When I went they also spread 1/2 but had a ~$80 tourney where the winner gets a 'free' cruise to play in a final tourney for I think 100K.

They had this tourney on ours as well, but it really is a marginal deal. The tourney is limited to 10 participants (they only have one electronic table) with only one prize. I talked with the guy that won it, and he will get a free cruise but it is the cheapest accomodations on a short cruise out of Miami not including tips so the value is a only a couple hundred dollars. He also gets entry into their tourney of winners with a 75K prize pool if he can go on that particular cruise. Otherwise he gets a $500 voucher for some other cruise and loses the value of the free tournament. It's probably ok value if you can make the tournament cruise (Jan 2011) but not a good deal otherwise.

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One last tip when you play on the pokerpro table - use your seapass id card to show/hide your playing cards - using your hand is usually harder as the touch screns are not amazing.
Yes, the "sign and sail" cards are necessary to poke the touch screens effectively.

DoubleU Jun 29, 2010 6:00pm

Yucatan isn't a city. Cozumel is, but then the island it's on is also called Cozumel. If you've only got 8 hrs. there, I'm with Boilermaker - go snorkeling. Best snorkeling I've ever done was in Belize, but Cozumel is decent too, and hey, not much beats splashing around in el Mar Caribe.

So where in Yucatan does the boat dock (or whatever the term is)? I'm assuming either Cancun or Playa del Carmen?

PocketJokers Jun 29, 2010 8:15pm

well i have to double check where we are porting, my GF handles all that stuff.

I think i will try out the snorkeling which sounds cool.

As for the hot women thing, that is depressing. Oh well, its not like i'm single anyway. Though eye candy doesn't hurt.

staphros Jun 29, 2010 8:52pm

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker (Post 903418)
They had this tourney on ours as well, but it really is a marginal deal. The tourney is limited to 10 participants (they only have one electronic table) with only one prize. I talked with the guy that won it, and he will get a free cruise but it is the cheapest accomodations on a short cruise out of Miami not including tips so the value is a only a couple hundred dollars. He also gets entry into their tourney of winners with a 75K prize pool if he can go on that particular cruise. Otherwise he gets a $500 voucher for some other cruise and loses the value of the free tournament. It's probably ok value if you can make the tournament cruise (Jan 2011) but not a good deal otherwise.



Yes, the "sign and sail" cards are necessary to poke the touch screens effectively.


Yeah in the 1 and only qualifier that ran on our cruise there was a husband and wife both in it....lol

PocketJokers Jul 01, 2010 1:24pm

ok i got the details. I will be on the Triumph.

Progreso, Yucatan, Mexico:
A seaside retreat located just 40 kilometers north of Merida along the Gulf Coast of Mexico, Progreso is quickly becoming an important gateway for cruise ship guests. Founded in 1872 by Juan Miguel Castro and heavily influenced by the Mayan culture, Progreso enjoys a very simple and relaxed lifestyle. Its white-sand beaches, emerald green waters and cooling gulf breezes are a natural draw for vacationers from all over the world.

Cozumel, Mexico:
Long before Cancun became a popular destination, Cozumel was well-known as a diving spot and home to the world famous Palancar Reef, which gives divers the opportunity to view thousands of brilliantly colored fish. Non-divers can kick back on a sun-drenched beach, or enjoy any number of seaside activities, such as shopping in colorful marketplaces or dining in an open-air café.

i wish it was more specific about the port locations though. Any thoughts? am debating on whether or not to take a New Orleans tour.

DoubleU Jul 01, 2010 3:50pm

Cool. If you've only got 8 hrs. you're probably best off staying in Progreso, Merida is a nice city but it's probably too far away and not really rewarding enough to go there for just an afternoon. IMO you don't really have enough time to do anything but wander around a bit, relax on the beach and enjoy a pescado frito and knock back a few beers on a seaside terrace. But that's not such a bad deal :cool:

PocketJokers Jul 12, 2010 1:49pm

The cruise was pretty fun. There were plenty of hot girls there, btw. might have gotten lucky.

I played in the lame qualifying tourney you guys mentioned. The tournament took way too long (people actually knew how to play, WTF) and blinds got up to 3000/6000 with 5 k starting stacks and 10 people.

When we got down to 3, we have been playing so long we decided to chop the winnings and play for the seat. I finished second, a pre flop push with fives and a call by nines(we both made a full house on the board, go figure). I had slightly less chips than the winner.

So i left with a $100 profit.

The cruise itself was very fun, good food and people. There was a potential hurricane in-the-making at Progresso, but progresso sucks anyway. Every stereo type of Mexico was confirmed there.

Cozumel on the other hand was very fun and relaxing. We had some authentic Mexican and relaxed on the beach I proposed to my GF and had a great day.

DoubleU Jul 12, 2010 3:11pm

Oooh, you proposed? She said yes I assume, if you posted it here? Congrats!

bluesjack9 Jul 12, 2010 3:17pm

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 906663)
The cruise was pretty fun. There were plenty of hot girls there, btw. might have gotten lucky.

I played in the lame qualifying tourney you guys mentioned. The tournament took way too long (people actually knew how to play, WTF) and blinds got up to 3000/6000 with 5 k starting stacks and 10 people.

When we got down to 3, we have been playing so long we decided to chop the winnings and play for the seat. I finished second, a pre flop push with fives and a call by nines(we both made a full house on the board, go figure). I had slightly less chips than the winner.

So i left with a $100 profit.

The cruise itself was very fun, good food and people. There was a potential hurricane in-the-making at Progresso, but progresso sucks anyway. Every stereo type of Mexico was confirmed there.

Cozumel on the other hand was very fun and relaxing. We had some authentic Mexican and relaxed on the beach I proposed to my GF and had a great day.

congrats...however at the risk of being a killjoy...if you are talking about maybe "getting lucky" are you sure you're ready to tie the knot?
Just talking from many long years of marrage...be sure you're ready my friend

DoubleU Jul 12, 2010 3:31pm

Ha I think he just meant he was lucky to be on a boat with a bunch of hot girls instead of saggy pensioners, not that he was trying to "get lucky" with one of them.

IronLen1972 Jul 12, 2010 5:31pm

I read that as he got lucky that the boat had nice looking girls too.

PocketJokers Jul 12, 2010 7:08pm

haha, Iron Len is right on that one.

She said yes, and we have been dating for 5 years so i was pretty sure :wink:

I drank some Mexican water though, but the sign said it was purified and i didn't crap my pants

bluesjack9 Jul 13, 2010 4:26pm

my bad read then PJ...my apoligies
congrats.

Hope she's a Bills fan :wink:

PocketJokers Jul 13, 2010 6:05pm

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Originally Posted by bluesjack9 (Post 906885)
my bad read then PJ...my apoligies
congrats.

Hope she's a Bills fan :wink:

Unfortunately, yes. We bought Season opener tickets vs. Miami just today lol.

bluesjack9 Oct 24, 2010 5:44am

thought I'd bump this thread up...seems like I'm taking this same cruise this january...the Triumph out of NO...PJ..did you spent any significant time in NO?

PocketJokers Oct 25, 2010 1:06am

no it was mostly just two trips in the cab. What i can tell you is that they sell liquor in the grocery stores.

i can give you a lot of good advice on this one, are you going to progesso Cozumel or the other Caribbean trip?

Ozone Oct 25, 2010 2:06am

Chiming in to say: I'm going on a cruise next week out of Galveston. It makes a couple stops in Mexico. Looking forward to the computerized $1/$2 action. :smile:

Go to N.O. a fair amount, blues. Lemme know if you have any questions.

staphros Oct 25, 2010 2:40am

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Originally Posted by Ozone (Post 930512)
Chiming in to say: I'm going on a cruise next week out of Galveston. It makes a couple stops in Mexico. Looking forward to the computerized $1/$2 action. :smile:

Go to N.O. a fair amount, blues. Lemme know if you have any questions.


Make sure you use your sailcard/room key instead of your hands to view your cards using your hands is a little unreliable.

PocketJokers Oct 25, 2010 4:59am

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Originally Posted by Ozone (Post 930512)
Chiming in to say: I'm going on a cruise next week out of Galveston. It makes a couple stops in Mexico. Looking forward to the computerized $1/$2 action. :smile:

Go to N.O. a fair amount, blues. Lemme know if you have any questions.

that boat has almost an identical itinerary as blues. Cozumel is nice but progresso sucks. i didn't here about the other cruise ports.

Oh, you might puke when you see the rake and structure of the single poker table. i managed to make out with money, barley.

bluesjack9 Oct 25, 2010 5:04am

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 930508)
no it was mostly just two trips in the cab. What i can tell you is that they sell liquor in the grocery stores.

i can give you a lot of good advice on this one, are you going to progesso Cozumel or the other Caribbean trip?


yeah same trip you took...Cozumel and Progresso.
Never been on a cruise, never been to NO.
Getting into NO Friday afternoon...cruise leaves Sat afternoon...Friday night on Bourbon St

killcrazy Oct 25, 2010 6:50pm

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 930508)
no it was mostly just two trips in the cab. What i can tell you is that they sell liquor in the grocery stores.

this is unusual? every grocers and corner store in the UK sells booze.

Kc

staphros Oct 25, 2010 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by killcrazy (Post 930621)
this is unusual? every grocers and corner store in the UK sells booze.

Kc

Most places in the states have to have a seperate license for liquor so a lot of places just have beer/wine in the supermarket. Rules vary by state/county.

Its a bit like Tesco only serving beer/wine in the main store but having a seperate entrance called Tesco Spirits which is about 5m square just with spirits.

THe places that sell purely alcohol are usually about the size of an average coop supermarket and they sell pretty much any drink and some cigars/cheese (note: Cuban cigars do not exist - nor does Cuba).

killcrazy Oct 25, 2010 10:48pm

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Originally Posted by staphros (Post 930661)
Its a bit like Tesco only serving beer/wine in the main store but having a seperate entrance called Tesco Spirits which is about 5m square just with spirits.

when did this happen? is it an english thing? you can buy spirits basically everywhere here; supermarket, grocers, corner shop run by the HELLOMYFRIENDHOWAREYOUTODAY? pakistani guy, barbers, post office, travel agents. even from the police when they stop you to make sure you're driving drunk.

Kc

PocketJokers Oct 25, 2010 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by bluesjack9 (Post 930525)
yeah same trip you took...Cozumel and Progresso.
Never been on a cruise, never been to NO.
Getting into NO Friday afternoon...cruise leaves Sat afternoon...Friday night on Bourbon St

that was also my first cruise and first trip to NO.

Bring liquor on the boat. Prices of drinks are ridiculous and don't buy alcohol from ports, they take your alcohol and store it until your last day on the boat. You are allowed to have 1 bottle in each bag, but you might want to sneak in more (mouthwash is a good place to hide it).

Once you are on the boat, the bucket of beer is the best price (which is not that good).

SUPER IMPORTANT! BRING SEA BANDS!!! i was feeling queezy 4 days in and they saved me from having a puke filled trip.

As far as the ports go, Progresso sucks, so you might want to do an excursion there to improve that port of call, basically every Mexico stereo type is confirmed there. (i bought a stack of coasters from there and it turned out it had two people 69ing on the front but i didn't notice till later. lol. gave it to my parents)

Cozumel i did the beach party excursion and i loved it, i recommend it.

The triumph boat is pretty big and bad ass, i was mostly on the lido deck sipping drinks. I went to the daily night time show too. The poker table sucks, but its worth it to kill some time...maybe

staphros Oct 26, 2010 12:44am

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Originally Posted by killcrazy (Post 930675)
when did this happen? is it an english thing? you can buy spirits basically everywhere here; supermarket, grocers, corner shop run by the HELLOMYFRIENDHOWAREYOUTODAY? pakistani guy, barbers, post office, travel agents. even from the police when they stop you to make sure you're driving drunk.

Kc

Doh - think I missed a much needed "if" before Tesco.:cry:

Boilermaker Oct 26, 2010 2:01am

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 930689)
Bring liquor on the boat. Prices of drinks are ridiculous and don't buy alcohol from ports, they take your alcohol and store it until your last day on the boat. You are allowed to have 1 bottle in each bag, but you might want to sneak in more (mouthwash is a good place to hide it).

They check fairly carefully for smuggled liquor. The drinks are expensive but as a fractional expense of the total trip I haven't found the bar bill to be something worth worrying about. Maybe I don't drink enough.

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SUPER IMPORTANT! BRING SEA BANDS!!! i was feeling queezy 4 days in and they saved me from having a puke filled trip.
Never had any issues with this on half a dozen cruises. Just curious if you get motion sickness other places?

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Cozumel i did the beach party excursion and i loved it, i recommend it.
+1

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The poker table sucks, but its worth it to kill some time...maybe
Yeah, pretty much.

I'm taking a Norwegian Cruise in a few weeks from NY to Bahamas. All my previous ones have been on Carnival. Norwegian has poker as well but I can't find any information on if it is the same PokerPro tables. Anyone been on one of these?

staphros Oct 26, 2010 2:08am

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker (Post 930700)
They check fairly carefully for smuggled liquor. The drinks are expensive but as a fractional expense of the total trip I haven't found the bar bill to be something worth worrying about. Maybe I don't drink enough.

Carnival let you bring a bottle of wine per passenger unless they changed it. YOu can also get a slight discount if you drink the daily specials.



I may actually be going to Cozumal early next year(Never been to Mexico before) - can anyone tell me if a Mayan ruin trip is worth it (I see its a full day excursion but a couple of hours travel time would not be a deal breaker).

I think the ones offered would be too either:
Coba:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coba

or
Tulum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum

Boilermaker Oct 26, 2010 2:18am

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Originally Posted by staphros (Post 930703)
Carnival let you bring a bottle of wine per passenger unless they changed it. YOu can also get a slight discount if you drink the daily specials.

That was the case on the cruises I've been on too, but one bottle of wine is negligible.

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I may actually be going to Cozumal early next year(Never been to Mexico before) - can anyone tell me if a Mayan ruin trip is worth it (I see its a full day excursion but a couple of hours travel time would not be a deal breaker).

I think the ones offered would be too either:
Coba:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coba

or
Tulum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum
We went to ruins in Belize (Altun Ha I think) and it was neat. Definitely worth doing once, but on a second trip I would just snorkel. If you had one port only and had to choose between ruins and a beach/snorkelling excursion I would say snorkel. If you have multiple ports and ruins is just one day then it is worth it.

staphros Oct 26, 2010 2:59am

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker (Post 930704)
That was the case on the cruises I've been on too, but one bottle of wine is negligible.



We went to ruins in Belize (Altun Ha I think) and it was neat. Definitely worth doing once, but on a second trip I would just snorkel. If you had one port only and had to choose between ruins and a beach/snorkelling excursion I would say snorkel. If you have multiple ports and ruins is just one day then it is worth it.

It will be multiple ports Key West/Jamaica/Grand Cayman/Cozumul - so i guess its worth it then. Was it a full day trip in Belize?

Boilermaker Oct 26, 2010 3:21am

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Originally Posted by staphros (Post 930707)
Was it a full day trip in Belize?

Almost. The ruins were about 2/3 of the day and then a river boat ride.

PocketJokers Oct 26, 2010 5:04am

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Never had any issues with this on half a dozen cruises. Just curious if you get motion sickness other places?
Not really, we went when there was a "tropical depression" AKA early hurricane and the waves got the best of me at dinner, so i would probably be fine under normal conditions.

checked carnival's rules again. you are allowed to bring on one bottle of alcohol per person. i would bring more if you could.

Belize looks awesome, definitely going in the future.

i was eying up taking the Allure of the Seas out of florida, that boat just looks like a beast.

oh a great source of anything cruise related:

www.cruisecritic.com

bluesjack9 Oct 26, 2010 5:08am

Thanks for all the info guys...very helpful

bluesjack9 Oct 26, 2010 3:49pm

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Originally Posted by Ozone (Post 930512)
Chiming in to say: I'm going on a cruise next week out of Galveston. It makes a couple stops in Mexico. Looking forward to the computerized $1/$2 action. :smile:

Go to N.O. a fair amount, blues. Lemme know if you have any questions.

Yeah I'll need a scouting report on the Poker

Also ever been to Emeril's? Does it live up to the hype? I'm a bit of a foodie and don't mind paying for a memorable meal.
Any stand out places for dinner?

thanks

Ozone Oct 26, 2010 9:49pm

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Originally Posted by PocketJokers (Post 930689)
Bring liquor on the boat. Prices of drinks are ridiculous and don't buy alcohol from ports, they take your alcohol and store it until your last day on the boat. You are allowed to have 1 bottle in each bag, but you might want to sneak in more (mouthwash is a good place to hide it).

This mouthwash idea is tremendous! Could save me literally hundreds on this trip. I'm thinking: empty a bottle of Crest blue mouthwash, fill it with vodka, dye the vodka blue. What are the chances of me getting caught if I do this? Consequences?

Re: New Orleans and Emeril's, I ate at his place "Nola" last time I was there, it was very delicious. Try the duck pizza as a shared appetizer.


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