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Old Apr 20, 2004, 8:47am   #1
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This hand screwed me over, still can't believe he called the check raise there. 2nd with 8 to go (1st got a seat). I got 8th of course.

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PokerStars Game #396270590: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (3000/6000) - 2004/04/20 - 03:31:49 (ET)
Table '1434661 22' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: delrfromhell (328718 in chips)
Seat 2: WILDBULLY (130796 in chips)
Seat 3: 1-Eyed-J (77844 in chips)
Seat 4: Bunkie (76064 in chips)
Seat 5: Nolanr126 (63226 in chips)
Seat 6: whalemangler (147625 in chips)
Seat 7: Mandingo666 (108781 in chips)
Seat 8: TheComputer (114684 in chips)
Seat 9: -db- (72762 in chips)
delrfromhell: posts the ante 300
WILDBULLY: posts the ante 300
1-Eyed-J: posts the ante 300
Bunkie: posts the ante 300
Nolanr126: posts the ante 300
whalemangler: posts the ante 300
Mandingo666: posts the ante 300
TheComputer: posts the ante 300
-db-: posts the ante 300
whalemangler: posts small blind 3000
Mandingo666: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [7d Ah]
TheComputer: folds
-db-: folds
delrfromhell: folds
WILDBULLY: folds
1-Eyed-J: calls 6000
Bunkie: folds
Nolanr126: folds
WILDBULLY said, "almost 2 times huh"
whalemangler: calls 3000
Mandingo666: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h Ad Jd]
WILDBULLY said, "lol"
whalemangler: checks
Mandingo666: checks
1-Eyed-J: bets 6000
whalemangler: raises 12000 to 18000
Mandingo666: folds
1-Eyed-J: calls 12000
*** TURN *** [3h Ad Jd] [2c]
whalemangler: bets 12000
1-Eyed-J: raises 41544 to 53544 and is all-in
whalemangler: calls 41544
*** RIVER *** [3h Ad Jd 2c] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
whalemangler: shows [7d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
1-Eyed-J: shows [2h 2d] (a full house, Deuces full of Jacks)
1-Eyed-J collected 163788 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 163788 | Rake 0
Board [3h Ad Jd 2c Js]
Seat 1: delrfromhell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: WILDBULLY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1-Eyed-J showed [2h 2d] and won (16378 with a full house, Deuces full of Jacks
Seat 4: Bunkie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Nolanr126 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: whalemangler (small blind) showed [7d Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: Mandingo666 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: TheComputer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: -db- folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 3:31pm   #2
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I think you were overcomitted to your A7o. I may have even tossed it - even as the small blind. What were your hopes here? A flop of A77? It's a trouble hand to start with, and you are out of position the whole way. Granted, everyone else folded to you, but you have to be very careful postflop.

AJ is very possible at this point to be held by old 1-Eye. 33 would be also. But you are dominited by a huge number of hands that could be held by the limper. A-x suited - what if his kicker hits?

I would have laid down to his all in bet (I say that now, you know may other variables of this hand) due to your kicker problems.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 4:00pm   #3
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I suspected I had him beat on the flop. Then I just couldn't figure out how the 2 helped him. Oh well, only 1st got the seat so 8th is as good as 2nd.

I just do not play well once the clock hits 2am, I need to play these on the weekends.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 4:53pm   #4
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Which tournament was this? The $300 entry Super? I am giving the $615 Super on Stars a shot this weekend. 2500 chips to start with, blinds move up every 30 minutes rather than 15.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 4:55pm   #5
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And that hand didn't knock you out, did it? My math shows you still with a decent amount of chips, crippled but not dead. Easily had 20+ hands you could have seen.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 7:48pm   #6
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Hmm... I can believe his call of the check-raise. He went for the feeler bet and, uh, felt something. He got very lucky on the turn and river.

It's funny, I was up late last night and decided to randomly observe some of the tournament action going on, and I watched this very table when it got to the final 4. Struck me as crazy crazy play, considering the stakes...

Are you going to take another stab at qualifying? Seems to me if you can make it to a final table once, you could do it again. ;)
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 8:35pm   #7
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Ya, I had some chips left but got a bad run of cards and had to go all in with A8 and got beat.

Should have check raised to 24k, he would have layed that down. Still he is drawing to 2 outs there. Also of note, if he did have A2 he would have lost.

This was the $33 rebuy at PS and was the first multi table I had played in a LONG time and I think I have gotten alot better. Might try it again tonight, hell that $650 will get me in alot of them.

PS Didn't rebuy or add on so I made $617.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 9:34pm   #8
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I'd hold out for the Sunday tournament. Takes a lot longer, but the payouts are deeper.

You know if you were playing on Party Poker they guy probably was counting a 4 & 5 as out also. LOL
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Old Apr 21, 2004, 2:57am   #9
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Here were the key hands I had.

This guy was playing a little crazy and had rebought twice I think. Was a tough call but I just went with my gut.

*********** # 35 **************
PokerStars Game #395999733: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2004/04/20 - 00:02:47 (ET)
Table '1434661 26' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: loopy07 (3945 in chips)
Seat 2: MAVSDADDY (3300 in chips)
Seat 3: whalemangler (2705 in chips)
Seat 4: rickolbn (1850 in chips)
Seat 5: OldOwl (4340 in chips)
Seat 6: Krannix (3705 in chips)
Seat 7: The sansman (2515 in chips)
Seat 8: MojaveTavi (3410 in chips)
Seat 9: nnolin (1350 in chips) is sitting out
OldOwl: posts small blind 25
Krannix: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [Kc Ac]
The sansman: folds
MojaveTavi: folds
nnolin: folds
loopy07: folds
MAVSDADDY: raises 250 to 300
whalemangler: calls 300
rickolbn: folds
OldOwl: folds
OldOwl is sitting out
Krannix: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 7d Ad]
MAVSDADDY: bets 400
whalemangler: raises 400 to 800
MAVSDADDY: calls 400
*** TURN *** [8h 7d Ad] [Qh]
MAVSDADDY: checks
whalemangler: bets 700
MAVSDADDY: calls 700
*** RIVER *** [8h 7d Ad Qh] [Qd]
MAVSDADDY: bets 1500 and is all-in
OldOwl has returned
OldOwl is sitting out
whalemangler: calls 905 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MAVSDADDY: shows [Ah Td] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
whalemangler: shows [Kc Ac] (two pair, Aces and Queens - King kicker)
whalemangler collected 5485 from pot
loopy07 said, "nice!"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5485 | Rake 0
Board [8h 7d Ad Qh Qd]
Seat 1: loopy07 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MAVSDADDY showed [Ah Td] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: whalemangler showed [Kc Ac] and won (5485) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 4: rickolbn (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: OldOwl (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Krannix (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: The sansman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MojaveTavi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: nnolin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
loopy07 said, "what a call!"


Note this is the same guy and he doubles me up again after rebuying and somehow building up over me.

*********** # 66 **************
PokerStars Game #396075454: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/04/20 - 00:46:29 (ET)
Table '1434661 26' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: loopy07 (15145 in chips)
Seat 2: MAVSDADDY (7536 in chips)
Seat 3: whalemangler (6335 in chips)
Seat 4: DonkeyHootie (6670 in chips)
Seat 5: OldOwl (4496 in chips)
Seat 6: delrfromhell (10670 in chips)
Seat 7: The sansman (1188 in chips)
Seat 8: MojaveTavi (1550 in chips)
MAVSDADDY: posts small blind 75
whalemangler: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [5d 3h]
DonkeyHootie: folds
OldOwl: folds
delrfromhell: folds
The sansman: folds
MojaveTavi: folds
loopy07: folds
MAVSDADDY: calls 75
whalemangler: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 4s 2d]
MAVSDADDY: bets 750
whalemangler: calls 750
*** TURN *** [5c 4s 2d] [6h]
MAVSDADDY: bets 6636 and is all-in
whalemangler: calls 5435 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5c 4s 2d 6h] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MAVSDADDY: shows [Kd 4d] (a pair of Fours)
whalemangler: shows [5d 3h] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
whalemangler collected 12670 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12670 | Rake 0
Board [5c 4s 2d 6h Ah]
Seat 1: loopy07 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MAVSDADDY (small blind) showed [Kd 4d] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 3: whalemangler (big blind) showed [5d 3h] and won (12670) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: DonkeyHootie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: OldOwl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: delrfromhell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: The sansman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MojaveTavi folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Doesn't get any better than this... made me the chip leader or close to it.

*********** # 80 **************
PokerStars Game #396091919: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/04/20 - 00:57:09 (ET)
Table '1434661 31' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: johnnysr (6780 in chips)
Seat 2: idun (11100 in chips)
Seat 3: Lost City (7875 in chips)
Seat 5: AcidFly (6550 in chips)
Seat 6: whalemangler (11845 in chips)
Seat 7: siaver (8645 in chips)
Seat 8: Sunyata (7005 in chips)
Seat 9: squashnut (13590 in chips)
AcidFly: posts small blind 100
whalemangler: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [Ts Tc]
siaver: calls 200
Sunyata: folds
Lost City said, "vnh"
squashnut: folds
johnnysr: folds
idun: folds
Lost City: raises 400 to 600
AcidFly: folds
whalemangler: calls 400
siaver: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [5d Th 5h]
whalemangler: checks
siaver: checks
Lost City: bets 2000
whalemangler: calls 2000
siaver: calls 2000
*** TURN *** [5d Th 5h] [8s]
whalemangler: checks
siaver: bets 6045 and is all-in
Lost City: calls 5275 and is all-in
whalemangler: calls 6045
*** RIVER *** [5d Th 5h 8s] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
whalemangler: shows [Ts Tc] (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
siaver: shows [6c 6h] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
cardsmith is connected
whalemangler collected 1540 from side pot
Lost City: shows [Kd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
whalemangler collected 23725 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25265 Main pot 23725. Side pot 1540. | Rake 0
Board [5d Th 5h 8s 8d]
Seat 1: johnnysr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: idun folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lost City (button) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 5: AcidFly (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: whalemangler (big blind) showed [Ts Tc] and won (25265) with a full house, Tens full of Eights
Seat 7: siaver showed [6c 6h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 8: Sunyata folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: squashnut folded before Flop (didn't bet)

This is just good luck here, got disconnected for about 2 minutes and this happened while I was out.

*********** # 100 **************
PokerStars Game #396123913: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/04/20 - 01:19:03 (ET)
Table '1434661 31' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: johnnysr (14740 in chips)
Seat 2: str8frush (6745 in chips)
Seat 3: muskrrr (12843 in chips)
Seat 4: Sailor Moe (22797 in chips)
Seat 6: whalemangler (29960 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Sooners (15200 in chips)
Seat 8: Sunyata (17620 in chips)
Seat 9: squashnut (9950 in chips)
johnnysr: posts the ante 25
str8frush: posts the ante 25
muskrrr: posts the ante 25
Sailor Moe: posts the ante 25
whalemangler: posts the ante 25
Sooners: posts the ante 25
Sunyata: posts the ante 25
squashnut: posts the ante 25
muskrrr: posts small blind 100
Sailor Moe: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [Ks Ac]
whalemangler: folds
Sooners said, "would you have called if I didnt reraise?"
Sooners: folds
Sunyata: folds
squashnut said, "you bet"
squashnut: raises 400 to 600
Sooners said, "wow..dumb luck for me"
Sooners said, "lol"
johnnysr: folds
str8frush: folds
muskrrr: folds
Sailor Moe: folds
squashnut collected 700 from pot
squashnut: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 700 | Rake 0
Seat 1: johnnysr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: str8frush (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: muskrrr (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Sailor Moe (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: whalemangler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Sooners folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sunyata folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: squashnut collected (700)


This one sealed the money, autofolded for one round then took it to em.

*********** # 210 **************
PokerStars Game #396232687: Tournament #1434661, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1500/3000) - 2004/04/20 - 02:56:11 (ET)
Table '1434661 31' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: SoCal Jack (27699 in chips)
Seat 4: Sailor Moe (56834 in chips)
Seat 5: dino22 (61869 in chips)
Seat 6: whalemangler (41460 in chips)
Seat 7: pub1755 (29829 in chips)
Seat 8: Acenothing (21198 in chips)
Seat 9: coolj123 (99430 in chips)
SoCal Jack: posts the ante 150
Sailor Moe: posts the ante 150
dino22: posts the ante 150
whalemangler: posts the ante 150
pub1755: posts the ante 150
Acenothing: posts the ante 150
coolj123: posts the ante 150
coolj123: posts small blind 1500
SoCal Jack: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to whalemangler [Jd Jc]
Sailor Moe: folds
dino22: folds
whalemangler: raises 9000 to 12000
pub1755: folds
Acenothing: raises 9048 to 21048 and is all-in
coolj123: folds
SoCal Jack: folds
whalemangler: calls 9048
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2s 3s]
*** TURN *** [Jh 2s 3s] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2s 3s 4s] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
whalemangler: shows [Jd Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Acenothing: shows [Td Ad] (high card Ace)
whalemangler collected 47646 from pot
whalemangler said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 47646 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 2s 3s 4s 9d]
Seat 3: SoCal Jack (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Sailor Moe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dino22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: whalemangler showed [Jd Jc] and won (47646) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: pub1755 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Acenothing (button) showed [Td Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: coolj123 (small blind) folded before Flop
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