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Old Nov 03, 2011, 12:04am   #1
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Villain ist ein recht guter reg, schlägt IPoker laut PTR mit 5 bb/100 auf ne grosse sample, was ziemlich überdurchschnittlich ist.

Spielt 26/20, foldet 61% im BB vs. SB steal und 3bettet 21%.

Um den stack komplett rein zu bekommen müsste ich irgendwo check-raisen. Turn oder river?

Wie spielt man die Hand?



Stacks:
UTG ($50)
CO ($55.65)
BTN ($101.23)
Hero (SB) ($150.39)
BB ($109.70)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

River: ($34, 2 players)
Hero?
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Old Nov 03, 2011, 12:26am   #2
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es ist nicht immer die beste line seinen kompletten stacks mit den nuts rein zu bekommen

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Old Nov 03, 2011, 12:31am   #3
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meistens sollte man mit den nuts ne allin line spielen, was auch over bet jams einbezieht. der einzige grund das nicht zu tun waere zu inducen (was nicht exploitive gemeint ist, im sinne er bluff raised zu viel, sondern theoretisch, um die bet-klein-range zu schuetzen)


denke mal du kannst hier auf jeder street checken, ist jeweils ok

wuerd wohl am liebsten turn checken, weil 7x eventuell foldet, und alles andere wohl selbst bettet wenn es ne bet callen wuerde. (nun gut villeicht checks Ahi behind aber wuerde ne 2barrel callen)
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Old Nov 03, 2011, 12:47am   #4
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denk lejean wird hier zu ca 0% gecalled, wenn er turn oder river check raised. du musst mit deinen value lines auch bluffs repräsentieren und da reichen mir seine posts hier um zu sagen, dass er weder solche bluffs spielt, noch seine gegner das von ihm denken werden.

wenn wir eine street checken dann natürlich den turn, aber bet bet bet (je nach gegner fake blocking oder große river bet) scheint mir hier besser. c/r würde mir nur mit 77/99 hier gefallen, da villain dann 2x so viele Qx combos hat, die auch alle betten werden.
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Old Nov 03, 2011, 1:03am   #5
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Ja hast schon recht. Dachte auch, dass mein check-raise nicht oft gecalled werden würde und habe deswegen selbst gebettet.

Manchmal bluff check-raise ich schon, aber nicht allzu oft und meistens nicht im BvB und für 100bb.
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