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Old Jun 02, 2012, 11:13am   #1
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Default NL50 sh / AA in Trouble?, 200BB, 3Bet Spot

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($106.66) 213bb
CO ($25.79) 52bb
BTN ($49.25) 99bb
SB ($78.85) 158bb
matpio (BB) ($98.06) 196bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) matpio is BB
UTG raises to $2, 3 folds, matpio raises to $7, UTG calls $5

Flop: ($14.25, 2 players)
matpio bets $8, UTG calls $8

Turn: ($30.25, 2 players)
matpio bets $16, UTG raises to $32

Final Pot: $62.25


Muss erstmal wieder reinkommen ins Game.
Turnminraise = he fucked me?

Andererseits ist das ein 3Bet Spot, go broke? ^^

Meine Frage ist auch ob er das hier jemals mit AQ, KK so spielt!?


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Old Jun 02, 2012, 12:05pm   #2
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call halt erstmal..

pre ruhig 8 bei 200bb

und flop size auch so 11,5-12,5
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Old Jun 02, 2012, 12:57pm   #3
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Turn minraise ist bei Fischen die nuts line. Da villain das als regular wissen sollte, würde ich davon ausgehen, dass er seine nuts eher nicht so spielen würde.

Turn wohl calle, river mal gucken
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Old Jun 02, 2012, 8:24pm   #4
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Kann mich mit einem Turncall überhaupt nicht anfreunden. Was soll das denn bringen?
Er wird doch sehr sehr sehr oft am River betten und ich muss folden oder wie? Dann kann ich auch gleich am Turn folden und mir 32BB sparen.
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wenn er am river immer bettet und du dann immer foldest, dann call den turn nicht. er wird aber nicht immer betten. Reicht ja schon wenn er jedes fünfte mal nicht bettet und du die hand dann gewinnst. manchmal kommt am river auch das ass
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mit 55 haettest du sicher keinen thread gemacht oder?
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 2:18am   #7
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Gib ihm mal ne vernünftige Range und guck, wie 55 und wie AA dagegen läuft.
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naja mit stats von 22/19 kann man wohl davon ausgehen, dass er UTG ca. 10% openraised. die F3B von 50% sollten ebenfalls etwas weniger werden, da er tendenziell stärkere hände spielt und ihr relativ deep seit.


interessant wär halt zu wissen ob er seine range eher um broadways konstruiert oder pairs bevorzugt. je nach dem wird sich auch der F3B ändern. broadways wird er eher auf deine 3bet folden als pairs, weil die implied odds für ihn sehr gut sind.


denk seine calling range sieht ungefähr so aus: 2's - J's, AQ, AJs

die höheren pairs und AK sollte er 4betten. bist imho im moment also nur gegen die sets hinten.

3x 5's, 3x 8's und 3x T's = 9 kombos.

für mich ein klare WA/WB situation. ich call den turn und schau was am river passiert...
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seit wann ist AKo nen default 4bet in den posis fuer 200bb?

seh da nicht den riesen vorteil ne value4bet range gegen matpio aufzumachen
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