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Old Feb 07, 2006, 5:43pm   #1
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Full Tilt Poker Game #424490337: $10,500 Guarantee (2664914), Table 3 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:58:21 ET - 2006/02/06
Seat 1: PhishVH (5,174)
Seat 2: SirSeanFitz (1,259)
Seat 3: Wait-Quietly (3,726)
Seat 4: deuce2u (3,15
Seat 5: mrs-solis (1,265)
Seat 6: balthazarr (1,825)
Seat 7: I_Love_Jays (2,227)
Seat 8: a2sfinest (89, is sitting out
Seat 9: UGGs (2,705)
PhishVH posts the small blind of 50
SirSeanFitz posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to balthazarr [Th Tc]
Wait-Quietly folds
deuce2u folds
mrs-solis raises to 250
balthazarr calls 250
I_Love_Jays folds
a2sfinest folds
UGGs folds
PhishVH folds
SirSeanFitz folds
*** FLOP *** [6s Jd 7c]
mrs-solis bets 1,015, and is all in
balthazarr ???

Ich war neu an diesen Tisch umgesetzt worden und hatte erst 4 Hände gesehen. mrs-solis und ich waren in keiner von diesen beteiligt.
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Old Feb 07, 2006, 6:16pm   #2
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Hmm, ich glaube ich hätte gefoldet....kannst ja auch gut gegen ein höheres Pocket Pair sein. Ist natürlich super schwer zu sagen wenn man den Spieler jetzt so nicht von Händen vorher kennt, was hast du denn gemacht?
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Old Feb 07, 2006, 7:08pm   #3
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klarer fold für mich, auch wenns schwer fällt. wenn du nicht weisst ob das irgendein maniac ist, kann der so ziemlich alles haben von AA, trips bis zu pair of jacks. und trotz fold hast du dann noch einen angenehmen stack übrig.
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Old Feb 07, 2006, 7:28pm   #4
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die frage, die ich mir stellte, war v.A.: würde ich mit einem set jacks, oder AA/KK gleich all-in gehen? wohl eher nicht, oder? (ausserdem würde ich JJ aufwärts nicht nur 2,5BB raisen, aber das nur zur sidenote...)
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Old Feb 07, 2006, 7:42pm   #5
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Bin mir auch nicht so sicher, das ist eine Situation, in der ich echt gerne einen read hätte. An sich schliesse ich auch wie Du JJ aus, der würde Action wollen. Overpair das jetzt und hier den Pott nehmen will, köööööönnte sein. Aber am ehesten tendiere ich noch zu AK/AQ.

Und dann wieder, das mach ich auch gern, wenn ich mein Set treffe, einfach pushen, sieht aus wie ein Bluff und wird meiner Erfahrung nach noch eher gecallt als eine Value Bet. Daher....read wäre toll.
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Old Feb 08, 2006, 3:39pm   #6
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was hast du denn gemacht?
TT vs. AK/AQ/KQ= 75-25
TT vs. overpair/XJ=10-90

3-1 vs. 1-9

pot 1.7:1

wenn ich ihn zu 50% auf ein overpair setze und zu 50% auf AK(u.ä.), sollte ich nicht callen.

wenn ich ihn aber nur zu 11% auf ein overpair, zu 22% auf xJ und zu 66% auf AK/AQ/KQ setze, sollte ich callen.

balthazarr calls 1,015
mrs-solis shows [Kd Qd]
balthazarr shows [Th Tc]
*** TURN *** [6s Jd 7c] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [6s Jd 7c 3h] [8h]
mrs-solis shows King Queen high
balthazarr shows a pair of Tens
balthazarr wins the pot (2,680) with a pair of Tens
mrs-solis stands up
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Old Feb 09, 2006, 7:47pm   #7
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also ich hätte ohne schlechtes gewissen gefoldet in deiner chip- und tischsituation...
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