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Old Mar 05, 2006, 5:38am   #11
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Ya 'theonlythree', thanks again for raising when it was heads up between us jerk face!

That was my first time playing at a casino. It was pretty crappy in my opinion, it was just like low stakes internet poker. I guess the way to do it, is play good hands strong....only problem was I was getting crappy cards most of the night and when I got a good hand, which was A,Q I got out beat by K,2, which again the guy caught off the river. It was ridiculous, I still can't get over it. I was raising $10 at a time, and he had nothing until the river. The other crappy thing about playing at a casino was the $5 sessions...
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 6:34am   #12
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Last I checked, a king was more valuable than a queen. Plus, where is the second pair?
So it is, so it is.

I'm not on the best run here. Think I'll shut up now.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 6:33pm   #13
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Please tip the dealers, people. You make it sound like tipping the dealers is something to sneak out of. These people make $5.25 an hour. Play online if don't want to be respectful. Especially if you win a $100 pot, for christs sake.

I know that was your first time in a casino, but I hope you learn for the next time.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 7:42pm   #14
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Please tip the dealers, people. You make it sound like tipping the dealers is something to sneak out of. These people make $5.25 an hour. Play online if don't want to be respectful. Especially if you win a $100 pot, for christs sake.

I know that was your first time in a casino, but I hope you learn for the next time.
You sound like a dealer ImAllInNow . This dealer was probably tapping for tips because he had the OP figured for an online player who might not be aware of the custom.

That's the problem with casinos spreading NL games. Up until recently, in Ontario especially, they almost only spread limit games, and usually 5/10+, where most people know to tip. If i was playing $100NL and paying $10 an hour to the house, I wouldn't feel encouraged to tip either. I still would tip, but it would seem silly. With NL games, the house makes the same rake that they would for a higher-level fixed game, but people lose a lot more when the tip, and some just don't tip therefore.

In my usual B&M game (10/20 fixed) almost everyone tips, and tips a minimum of $1 a pot. What's good about that game is that every pot is at least $100 so tipping isn't that big a percentage, but it's important for the dealer. Tipping more on a big pot isn't as big an issue at this limit because you're tipping constantly, but some still do (including me).

Way I see it is, if you always make sure to give the dealer tokes when they push the pot to you, they'll (hopefully) never forget to push it to you when they should. The natural reflex will be to send the chips that way.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 9:42pm   #15
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No, I'm not a dealer, but I have been playing at casinos for awhile now and I definitely appreciate them.

I also don't see why $10 an hour is that much worse than raking every pot. In an hour, you will probably take in at least three pots and that would be about $9 in rake anyway. As long as they don't rake (except for maybe a jackpot rake) the hands in addition to the time rake, I think it's better. It does favor a more aggressive player who wins a lot of pots and so saves money by not getting raked all the time.

Anyway, I hope the OP learns a little about B&M etiquitte before his next visit to the casino.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 10:10pm   #16
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No, I'm not a dealer, but I have been playing at casinos for awhile now and I definitely appreciate them.

I also don't see why $10 an hour is that much worse than raking every pot. In an hour, you will probably take in at least three pots and that would be about $9 in rake anyway. As long as they don't rake (except for maybe a jackpot rake) the hands in addition to the time rake, I think it's better. It does favor a more aggressive player who wins a lot of pots and so saves money by not getting raked all the time.

Anyway, I hope the OP learns a little about B&M etiquitte before his next visit to the casino.
The point was this comparison: I play 10/20 fixed and pay $10 an hour in rake. He's playing $100NL and paying that much. I prefer session fee because you know for sure what's leaving the game (and your stack). But there should be some equivalency - the 20/40 games get raked $14 an hour instead of $10, which makes sense.

I would expect for his $100NL game that the rake per pot would otherwise have to be capped at $2 a hand (it's $5 a hand at the 5/10 fixed, for instance) and therefore following your estimate, he'd be paying $6 an hour instead of $10. This is probably why they charge session instead, but realistically, $10 an hour to play $100NL is a rip.

That's why I'm glad I prefer fixed limit at the casinos. Although when in Vegas I'm sure I'll play some NL.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 10:25pm   #17
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Yeah I know about B&M etiquette already.

I fart at the dinner table so I wasn't going to break character just because I was in a casino.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 10:44pm   #18
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I am a notoriously good tipper at the casinos, but that might be because I usually play 500NL and 15/30 Limit. A very big pot ($1000+) is worth 20 bucks from me.
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