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Old May 01, 2006, 11:32pm   #1
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PokerStars Game #4804139653: Tournament #23911713, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/05/01 - 19:29:19 (ET)
Table '23911713 163' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Gwünner (5540 in chips)
Seat 2: shzrocka (5780 in chips)
Seat 3: f2b92 (5790 in chips)
Seat 4: Mattibiza (18761 in chips)
Seat 5: Buckeyekings (10985 in chips)
Seat 6: dabluess (15489 in chips)
Seat 7: MFMN (16564 in chips)
Seat 8: ManyFolds (2378 in chips)
Seat 9: randomkev (7270 in chips)
Gwünner: posts the ante 25
shzrocka: posts the ante 25
f2b92: posts the ante 25
Mattibiza: posts the ante 25
Buckeyekings: posts the ante 25
dabluess: posts the ante 25
MFMN: posts the ante 25
ManyFolds: posts the ante 25
randomkev: posts the ante 25
Buckeyekings: posts small blind 200
dabluess: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to randomkev [Ad Js]
MFMN: folds
ManyFolds said, "yeh, i hear ya...I usually start well, then lull for an hour or so.....then go one way or the other (funnily enuff) "
ManyFolds: folds
randomkev: raises 600 to 1000
Mattibiza said, "biggest hand for me was laying down pocket J's huh **MN?"
Gwünner: folds
shzrocka: folds
f2b92: folds
Mattibiza said, "wow they bleeped his name"
Mattibiza: calls 1000
ManyFolds said, "yeh, right...would been gone"
MFMN said, "yes when i caught trip 8s"
Buckeyekings: folds
dabluess: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 2d Jd]
randomkev: bets 1600
Mattibiza: calls 1600
*** TURN *** [4s 2d Jd] [Qd]
randomkev: bets 1600
Mattibiza said, "best mistake ever"
Mattibiza: raises 14536 to 16136 and is all-in
randomkev: calls 3045 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4s 2d Jd Qd] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
randomkev: shows [Ad Js] (a flush, Ace high)
Mattibiza: shows [Kd 9d] (a straight flush, Nine to King)
Mattibiza said, "wow"
Mattibiza collected 15315 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15315 | Rake 0
Board [4s 2d Jd Qd Td]
Seat 1: Gwünner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: shzrocka folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: f2b92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mattibiza (button) showed [Kd 9d] and won (15315) with a straight flush, Nine to King
Seat 5: Buckeyekings (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: dabluess (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MFMN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ManyFolds folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: randomkev showed [Ad Js] and lost with a flush, Ace high


Shouldn't have got myself in that position but ouch none the less.
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Old May 02, 2006, 12:59pm   #2
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You got that right. The time to go all-in was on the flop, you are going to end up pot committed trying to defend your hand anyway, so may as well push there and try and force the flush draw out of the hand. Your bet of $1600 into a pot of $2600 was small, considering that you had TPTK and any diamond or overcard other than an Ace is going to be a scare.

Instead you end up pushing all-in with what is now second best pair against a probable made flush. You were behind when you got your money in, so no surprise that you were still behind on the river. Although the circumstances are quite ironic.

You should have folded. You still have an M of nearly 8 and can pick a better spot to get your money in.
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