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Old Apr 10, 2008, 10:23pm   #1
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My usual line here would be
C/C flop C/fold turn or C/C flop C/C turn C/fold river depending on how many barrels I feel my opponent is capable of firing.

What do we think of this line ?
The point is to induce naked ace bluffs and pushes from smaller flushes that think I'm full of it (which I will be sometimes when I raise this flop)

My Opponent here is very aggresive pre and post flop and has a wide range.

Table 'Roehla III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: flopper302 ($233.55 in chips)
Seat 2: lbensel4 ($173.80 in chips)
Seat 3: jomimi ($51.30 in chips)
Seat 5: davmcg ($198 in chips)
Seat 6: joeyjoejr ($200 in chips)
Nesta79 will be allowed to play after the button
davmcg: posts small blind $1
joeyjoejr: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joeyjoejr [Qd Js Td Qc]
flopper302: raises $5 to $7
lbensel4: folds
jomimi: folds
davmcg: calls $6
joeyjoejr: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [4d 8d Jd]
davmcg: checks
joeyjoejr: checks
flopper302: bets $19.95
davmcg: folds
joeyjoejr: raises $40.05 to $60
flopper302: raises $139.95 to $199.95
joeyjoejr: calls $133 and is all-in
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 10:00am   #2
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i ussually dont checkraise the flop with your hand. but most of the opponents I play against are a lot less agressive and there are not many who would make a bluff with with the single if i took your line and i will allmost never get value out of worse...


with the read you give i think you played the hand ok, but it all comes down to how often he will bluff you if you check-raise and how often he will 2 or 3 barrell bluff if you just call the flop...


the good thing is, if he has you beat, you still got an out...
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Old Apr 14, 2008, 10:06pm   #3
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The point is to induce naked ace bluffs and pushes from smaller flushes that think I'm full of it (which I will be sometimes when I raise this flop)
way overthinking this. Unless you are sure he knows you are bluffing here often AND he would rebluff, don't ever do this.

just stick with a polarized c/r range here and you're fine vs almost every player.
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Old Apr 15, 2008, 9:55pm   #4
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Yeah I dont really like my play there .... because it was against a UTG raiser and even if I assume he pushes the naked ace everytime he will have the suited ace too often. Also I had the third nuts there it would be better with the second nuts.

In the actual hand I did lose my stack but it was to the K high flush which tells me the play would have value against him. If are hands were reversed the same betting may have occured.

I think I may use the line again but only against BTN steals and only with the second nuts since they will have trashy hands with the lone A from the BTN much more often. Quite a few aggro players can't resist shoving the naked ace there.

Also I may use this line in the future if I flop top set againt a BTN raiser. Were still destroying a rebluff and we do have okay equity when we run into a flush.
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