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Old Mar 04, 2009, 11:27pm   #11
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sorry guys, but you should all post little background..how did villain play before this hand?do you have a history with him from playing previous sessions?explain why exactly you made those calls? just posting the HH isn't that good...looks like you guys are playing like crap and calling down like fishes do...
sorry, not against you personally, 'cause i know your both great players..but if someone is just reading this posts, it looks pretty weak..
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 11:40pm   #12
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sorry guys, but you should all post little background..how did villain play before this hand?do you have a history with him from playing previous sessions?explain why exactly you made those calls? just posting the HH isn't that good...looks like you guys are playing like crap and calling down like fishes do...
sorry, not against you personally, 'cause i know your both great players..but if someone is just reading this posts, it looks pretty weak..
Ok well my guy was just insanely loose PF but was raising a bit also so his limp indicates a non ace and non pair hand.

I knew he was going to raise pretty much any bet on the flop unless I potted it but I didn't fancy having to 2-barrel ace high OOP. Betting ace high into a calling station isn't the greatest play in the world either.

So I checked and he checked which mean't he could have been on a draw but that's it, he would have bet if he'd hit the flop at all so I know i'm still ahead.

Turn brings a 3rd club, I've got 2nd nut flush draw and I already know he probably doesn't have an ace, plus I have 2 over cards and unless he's got a jack I'm still ahead.

I check he bets very weak. If he has jack or midflush he bets more, if he has weak draw he bets weak which he did so once again at this point I'm pretty sure i'm ahead.

River brings another nothing card and I'm almost certain I'm ahead but check anyway, then he pots it...?

It doesn't make any sense, the turn was where a made hand bets for value and it's highly unlikely he's hit the nothng card on the river. Maybe he could have some crazyass 35 type hand but this is such an "I'VE GOT AIR BUT WANT THE POT!!" bet I decided I'm definaltey good here 35+% of the time so I called.
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 11:49pm   #13
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My guy was clearly on LSD or a lot of alcohol and his range for donking all streets was any two cards.
Im worried on the river he could have like 29o but A high is probably good often enough
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 11:50pm   #14
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Old Mar 05, 2009, 2:01am   #15
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Ok well my guy was just insanely loose PF but was raising a bit also so his limp indicates a non ace and non pair hand.

I knew he was going to raise pretty much any bet on the flop unless I potted it but I didn't fancy having to 2-barrel ace high OOP. Betting ace high into a calling station isn't the greatest play in the world either.

So I checked and he checked which mean't he could have been on a draw but that's it, he would have bet if he'd hit the flop at all so I know i'm still ahead.

Turn brings a 3rd club, I've got 2nd nut flush draw and I already know he probably doesn't have an ace, plus I have 2 over cards and unless he's got a jack I'm still ahead.

I check he bets very weak. If he has jack or midflush he bets more, if he has weak draw he bets weak which he did so once again at this point I'm pretty sure i'm ahead.

River brings another nothing card and I'm almost certain I'm ahead but check anyway, then he pots it...?

It doesn't make any sense, the turn was where a made hand bets for value and it's highly unlikely he's hit the nothng card on the river. Maybe he could have some crazyass 35 type hand but this is such an "I'VE GOT AIR BUT WANT THE POT!!" bet I decided I'm definaltey good here 35+% of the time so I called.
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My guy was clearly on LSD or a lot of alcohol and his range for donking all streets was any two cards.
Im worried on the river he could have like 29o but A high is probably good often enough .
see guys, thats a lot better!!this way we even learn something...it's always nice to see how ppl think about a play...
i hope you didn't think my previous post was to offend you..
thank you
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Old Mar 05, 2009, 2:31am   #16
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Old Mar 05, 2009, 3:05am   #17
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I would venture my cbet % is lower than any other winning tournament player on the forum. Not super low or anything, but I check more flops than most. Haven't tracked my stats to check this of course. This is probably why I suck at cash games.

Awesome reads btw

I don't think having a lower than average cbet % is necessarily a bad thing if you know what you're doing postflop.
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Old Mar 05, 2009, 4:43am   #18
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PokerStars Game #25617584788: Tournament #144057742, $20+$2 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit - Level IV (100/200) - 2009/03/05 0:39:26 ET
Table '144057742 2' 8-max
Seat 1: raisenroot (2557 in chips)
Seat 2: king funn (4680 in chips)
Seat 4: oldman&C (4910 in chips)
Seat 5: joe12joe (2197 in chips)
Seat 6: inter272007 (4606 in chips)
Seat 7: MarkyC16 (1535 in chips)
Seat 8: MikkeD (3515 in chips)
raisenroot: posts the ante 10
king funn: posts the ante 10
oldman&C: posts the ante 10
joe12joe: posts the ante 10
inter272007: posts the ante 10
MarkyC16: posts the ante 10
MikkeD: posts the ante 10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to raisenroot [7h]
Dealt to king funn [8c]
Dealt to oldman&C [2s]
Dealt to joe12joe [6c]
Dealt to inter272007 [Kd]
Dealt to MarkyC16 [3h]
Dealt to MikkeD [Qh 2h Jh]
oldman&C: brings in for 30
joe12joe: calls 30
inter272007: folds
MarkyC16: calls 30
MikkeD: calls 30
raisenroot: folds
king funn: calls 30
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to king funn [8c] [8s]
Dealt to oldman&C [2s] [Kh]
Dealt to joe12joe [6c] [Ah]
Dealt to MarkyC16 [3h] [8d]
Dealt to MikkeD [Qh 2h Jh] [Qs]
king funn: checks
oldman&C: checks
joe12joe: bets 100
MarkyC16: calls 100
MikkeD: calls 100
king funn: folds
oldman&C: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to joe12joe [6c Ah] [Th]
Dealt to MarkyC16 [3h 8d] [Ts]
Dealt to MikkeD [Qh 2h Jh Qs] [Ad]
MikkeD: checks
joe12joe: bets 200
MarkyC16: calls 200
MikkeD: calls 200
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to joe12joe [6c Ah Th] [Ks]
Dealt to MarkyC16 [3h 8d Ts] [5c]
Dealt to MikkeD [Qh 2h Jh Qs Ad] [7c]
joe12joe: checks
MarkyC16: bets 200
MikkeD: calls 200
joe12joe: calls 200
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to MikkeD [Qh 2h Jh Qs Ad 7c] [9h]
joe12joe: checks
MarkyC16: checks
MikkeD: bets 200
joe12joe: raises 200 to 400
MarkyC16: folds
MikkeD said, "plz have bad low lol"
MikkeD: calls 200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joe12joe: shows [3s 2c 6c Ah Th Ks 5h] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,3,2,A)
MikkeD: shows [Qh 2h Jh Qs Ad 7c 9h] (HI: a pair of Queens)
MikkeD collected 1260 from pot
joe12joe collected 1260 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2520 | Rake 0
Seat 1: raisenroot folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: king funn folded on the 4th Street
Seat 4: oldman&C folded on the 4th Street
Seat 5: joe12joe showed [3s 2c 6c Ah Th Ks 5h] and won (1260) with HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,3,2,A
Seat 6: inter272007 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MarkyC16 folded on the River
Seat 8: MikkeD showed [Qh 2h Jh Qs Ad 7c 9h] and won (1260) with HI: a pair of Queens
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