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Old Oct 27, 2009, 12:17am   #1
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This is from earlier today. I'd like to see how others would have played it out.

Pacific .25/.50 Longhanded NL

Your hand: Ah Ad in the SB

Action to you: limped to CO seat, button raises to $3.50

You reraise to $10. The BB and button both call.

Flop: Jd 2d 6d

As first to act, what do you do?

EDIT: I forgot to mention stack sizes preflop. You: $47, BB: $68, Button: $44





In the actual hand, I bet 2/3 of the pot since my position is poor, I'm not afraid of a 4th diamond, and I want to define my hand.

The BB flat calls, the button folds.

Turn: Ac

What do you do?

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Old Oct 27, 2009, 5:33am   #2
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So you bet about 20 on the flop and with about $27 behind, I think either shoving the turn or checking the turn and shoving the river is fine, depending on which street you think he's more likely to call on? Alternatively, if villains will perceive a small bet as weakness, bet 12-15 and shove your last 12-15 on the river since the pot should be huge by then? It all depends on what type of player villain is and what hand he's likely to have and whether that hand is more likely to put his last $27 in on the turn or river.

I probably check the turn to rep some sort of TT, QQ type hand since villain will shove the turn probably 60% of the time and we can snap then shove the river myself regardless of whether a diamond hits or not (for value obv) and get called an additional 60% of the time or so as our hand looks underrepped and he will call with most one pair hands or better.

Shoving is fine here too though since you get called prob 60-80% of the time anyway
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 12:03am   #3
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I agree with your flop bet. It's a good value bet and will help you figure out where you are. It would be pretty passive to check.

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So you bet about 20 on the flop and with about $27 behind,
$10 preflop + $20 on the flop = $30, with a starting stack size of $47. I think he has $17 left in a pot of $70.

Almost certainly you're both going to be all in. He obviously likes his hand and you have to like yours. I think you get more value by calling than betting though, since I think there's a good chance he's putting you on a couple big cards. An AQ or an underpair might try to steal on the turn if you check (maybe not this guy though - you haven't given us any reads).

If he isn't creative enough to try to bluff here, then just shove. If he is, check the turn, and maybe even the river. If a 4th diamond comes on the river, that would be kind of unfortunate but that only happens what... 20% of the time? I've clearly been away too long if I can't remember what that probability is.
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 1:06am   #4
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 3:10am   #5
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What the hell.... where did Fox come from all the sudden?
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 4:31am   #6
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What the hell.... where did Fox come from all the sudden?
Better question: isn't it "all of a sudden"? Either way, it's a weird phrase when you think about it. This is the internet, right? Pedantic questions of grammar are considered good questions?
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