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Old Feb 01, 2010, 4:01am   #1
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I'm pretty new to omaha, so when the board pairs, I get scared. I assume this is a fold without a read? I'm new to the table. Am I too nitty?

PokerStars Game #39049414016: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2010/01/31 22:48:09 CT [2010/01/31 23:48:09 ET]
Table 'Hypatia VII' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 2001FXSTD ($5.38 in chips)
Seat 2: Sophia.flc28 ($0.89 in chips)
Seat 3: milosch26 ($7.34 in chips)
Seat 4: frizlefry ($4.46 in chips)
Seat 5: GelliAquila ($5 in chips)
Seat 6: w7zorro ($3.06 in chips)
Seat 7: SILVERSGIRL ($5.54 in chips)
Seat 8: rickeydee1 ($2.14 in chips)
Seat 9: newestfish ($3.48 in chips)
GelliAquila: posts small blind $0.01
w7zorro: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to newestfish [7s Ac 8h Kd]
SILVERSGIRL: calls $0.02
rickeydee1: calls $0.02
newestfish: calls $0.02
2001FXSTD: folds
Sophia.flc28: calls $0.02
milosch26: calls $0.02
frizlefry: folds
GelliAquila: raises $0.08 to $0.10
w7zorro: folds
SILVERSGIRL: calls $0.08
rickeydee1: calls $0.08
newestfish: calls $0.08
Sophia.flc28: calls $0.08
milosch26: calls $0.08
*** FLOP *** [2s 6h 4h]
GelliAquila: checks
SILVERSGIRL: checks
rickeydee1: checks
newestfish: checks
Sophia.flc28: checks
milosch26: checks
*** TURN *** [2s 6h 4h] [5c]
GelliAquila: checks
SILVERSGIRL: checks
rickeydee1: bets $0.06
newestfish: raises $0.44 to $0.50
Sophia.flc28: folds
milosch26: calls $0.50
GelliAquila: folds
SILVERSGIRL: folds
rickeydee1: folds
*** RIVER *** [2s 6h 4h 5c] [6c]
newestfish: bets $0.54
milosch26: raises $2.71 to $3.25
newestfish: ???

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Old Feb 01, 2010, 7:08am   #2
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1. easy fold
2. fold preflop, this hand is trash (Ace and King are not suited)
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Old Feb 01, 2010, 4:08pm   #3
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2. fold preflop, this hand is trash (Ace and King are not suited)
I figured as much. The only reason why I was in was I knew I could get in cheap. Lots of limping pre, hardly any raising. It was a pretty passive table from the few hands I was in.

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Old Feb 02, 2010, 5:28am   #4
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Checkcall river @ microstakes imo

Alternatively, bet/fold is fine if you think he calls light but doesnt ever bluff if checked to or bluffraise if you lead
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Old Feb 02, 2010, 3:33pm   #5
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Fold preflop as mentioned. On river, you probably want to bet/fold at microstakes and probably check at mid stakes, because at microstakes people will never bluffraise here (or raise with a hand that beats you) and at midstakes you probably want to check call (or check/fold depending on the player) because they're much more capable of bluffraising or going for very thin value here with, say, the second best straight.

As played, fold to the reraise makes most sense. I can't ever see this being a bluff, so if you're good, it wasn't a bluff they just made a random bet without any particular purpose. That sometimes happens at .01/.02 games.

This is also full ring, hence, the game should be interpreted as being nittier than short hand by default. I very, very rarely see a bluff raise river at FR plo.
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