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Old Aug 12, 2010, 6:14pm   #1
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($86.89)
SB zuzuvela ($50)
BB speaknuts1973 ($50) 23 / 12 / 5.9, raise c-bet 38% ( 8 ), c/r flop 18% (11) in 344 Hands

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 3 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $1.50, zuzuvela folds, speaknuts1973 calls $1

Flop: ($3.25, 2 players)
speaknuts1973 checks, Hero bets $2.50, speaknuts1973 raises to $8, Hero raises to $22, speaknuts1973 calls $14

Turn: ($47.25, 2 players)
speaknuts1973 bets $26.50, Hero calls $26.50

River: ($100.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $100.25

bin mir sicher dass das gegen seine range absolut legitim ist, denke aber auch dass seine range bei den stats pure air-bluffs hat, die alle aufn dickes flop-raise folden. da ich ihn zu dem zeitpunkt kaum kannte, und nur die stats hatte, ist das jut so? ich mein ist 3-handed... auch bei 6-max standard?
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 6:28pm   #2
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find ich nicht gut. er hat hier bei der dicken action minimum 50%, nie weniger, jedoch oftmals nen shitload mehr equity als du. warum raised du den flop nochmal weiter anstatt zu callen? du bist IP und du hast ne relativ starke hand, die je nach turn nochmal callen kann.
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 6:49pm   #3
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Ich versuch ihm hier mal eine value-only range zu geben, wovon einige Hände definitiv zu discounten sind, da er 99+ vermutlich 3bettet.

Board: 7s 9s 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.393% 35.29% 01.11% 25501 800.00 { 8d8s }
Hand 1: 63.607% 62.50% 01.11% 45169 800.00 { 99+, 77-66, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, QsTs, JsTs, 97s-96s, T8o, 97o-96o }

wie gesagt, dass ist NUR die value-range.

Was mir hier nicht ganz sinnig erschien: Jeder normale regdonk wird vermutlich am flop alles reinstellen mit FD+overs? Mir fällt keine einzige Hand ein die eine so große 3bet callt. Naja reg-donk..
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 8:28pm   #4
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wäre ich mir nicht so sicher ob der hier so oft AKs,99-JJ 3bettet bei dem großen gap zwischen PFR und vpip.

und was er da am flop macht weiß ich nicht - darauf kommts aber auch nicht an, da du sowieso commitest bist nachdem du auf 22 raised.

die range, die du ihm gegeben hast passt schon so...ich würde noch ein paar Axs hinzufügen aber is jetzt nicht so ausschlaggebend.
du sagst, dass das nur die valuerange ist - was ist denn dann seine bluffrange?
ich denke die range, die du dem gegner da gibst, ist seine komplette range und wie du siehst stinkt deine hand dagegen mächtig ab.
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 10:15pm   #5
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naja mit valuerange meinte ich lediglich, dass er da bei den raise-stats auch 9x und A8 mäßige Hände raist imho.

anyway, er hatte hier
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