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Old May 09, 2011, 8:43am   #431
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Both had 4 picks / saves. Seer had night 0 pick.

I have no clue why Expop came out when he did unless he was sure the wolves were onto him.

Kmay was his night 0 pick.
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Old May 09, 2011, 8:47am   #432
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Sorry I wasnt around at the end, been busy in Melbourne for Melb Poker Champs. Game was pretty much lost anyway when the angel got eaten then expop came out for no reason.
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Old May 09, 2011, 9:07am   #433
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I have no clue why Expop came out when he did unless he was sure the wolves were onto him.
How does it play out better if I let Garso hang?

I have to come out the next day cycle anyway as at that point we have 3 days to hang 3 wolves. So I lose a known villager to get another pick say 85% of the time (5% I get eaten, 10% the wolves eat my pick).
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Old May 09, 2011, 9:16am   #434
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Both had 4 picks / saves. Seer had night 0 pick.

I have no clue why Expop came out when he did unless he was sure the wolves were onto him.

Kmay was his night 0 pick.
Then you made the game balanced imo (or even favoring village), we just sucked.
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How does it play out better if I let Garso hang?

I have to come out the next day cycle anyway as at that point we have 3 days to hang 3 wolves. So I lose a known villager to get another pick say 85% of the time (5% I get eaten, 10% the wolves eat my pick).
Actually my criticism would be that you should have come out earlier that day to ensure kmay got hung. That one day earlier may have saved the village.
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Yeah basically coming out and hanging a villager when you had a confirmed wolf hurt a lot more than either staying hidden or coming out as soon as Garso was in trouble.

Also there was no guarantee garso would hang, the vote was tied when you came out

Oh well live and learn. I sucked too this game missing the final vote, not that it would have made a difference as we never hang both sully and glockers over snaggle in that spot
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Actually my criticism would be that you should have come out earlier that day to ensure kmay got hung. That one day earlier may have saved the village.
OK that makes more sense.

But I thought I had managed to avoid hanging Garso and still get another pick. Without Boiler's last minute vote I think it would have worked to the best advantage of the village.

Unfortunately, I could not stay around to see what the outcome would be in the run-off and I decided that letting Garso hang was the worst of all outcomes.
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Old May 09, 2011, 5:16pm   #438
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OK that makes more sense.

But I thought I had managed to avoid hanging Garso and still get another pick. Without Boiler's last minute vote I think it would have worked to the best advantage of the village.

Unfortunately, I could not stay around to see what the outcome would be in the run-off and I decided that letting Garso hang was the worst of all outcomes.
You played it fine. lvkid would have died anyway if garso was cleared a villager. You don't want to let garso die there. It was pretty likely he would have. If you wait till 10 min till you run the risk that a bunch of people not on garso (like myself) switch to him and bury him and then afk and aren't there to switch back when you come out.

If you come out earlier that day and make sure I get hung, then you die at night anyway and lvkid probably hangs a fair amount of the time the next day, and probably almost always by the end of the game.
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