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Old May 17, 2005, 5:33pm   #1
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Ok, so I am basically looking for advice. I am a student, and I don't wish to reveal my age, but I cannot gamble within a casino. So, of course I tried some online cards for fun. I mostly played No Limit Texas Holdem, with the odd game of Omaha for some random fun (I'm definitely not a good Omaha player).

So, with a students bankroll I took 50$ and put it on a site, one of the affiliate sites of www.888.com, Pacific Poker. I did some research, found out that the bonus was good in March, and the holdem no limit competition was soft. Anyways, to make a long story short within a 50 day time period I gathered a bank roll of about 900$. Not a lot of money I know, but still, for me at my age I was satisfied. But then, on day 50 exactly, everything went wrong. Every "winning hand" quickly turned into a losing one.

AA - means nothing to me online anymore, lost 7 times with it
55 - Flopped Quads lost to rivered higher quads???
AQ suited vs 32 OS - someone put me all in with my AQ and he flops trips

These are just a few examples. Eventually my immaturity shows, and I put 200$ on a large table. The average pot size is quite large and I am wondering if I'm doing the right thing. So, I wait it out, waste 20$ in blinds until I get KK on the button. I raise 10$ preflop and get 3 callers, then the last caller raises all in preflop, $142.86. I consider for only a second, and I don't put him on AA so I reraise all in, another 40$ or so. The other 3 players fold.

KK vs. A8 OS - THATS RIGHT - he raised 145$ preflop with A8 os

Flop: K Q 10
Turn: 4
River: J

The players that folded preflop folded Ace Jack, Jack Jack, and 99.

He had a one outer jack, and hit on the river. At least is wasnt the ace, but ... This is completely disgusting, someone please give me advice. Online poker now disgusts me but I have no where else to play.
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Old May 17, 2005, 5:51pm   #2
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YOu want advice? Get rid of that avatar, or at least resize it, then we can talk poker.
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Old May 17, 2005, 6:02pm   #3
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er...great. anyone with some actual advice?
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Old May 17, 2005, 6:10pm   #4
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First point. You recognised your error in taking out $200 and playing at a level higher than you were ready for, either in playing terms or in bankroll. So, although you got a bad beat, you shouldn't be surprised you lost the lot, as it would've happened sooner or later. Sorry, but that's the truth.

There are no more short cuts to winning at poker than there are to winning at, say, pool; just a lot of hard work and thousands (yes, thousands) of hours. Not to mention the books you should be reading too, and time spent reading articles on forums such as this.

I keep thinking of more to say about this. You're a student - if I were you I'd be spending my money getting pissed and copping off with girls. Poker can wait for when you've got an income.

If you continue to play NL with money you cannot afford to lose, it will only end in tears. If you feel you were beating the low levels comfortable, go back there if you have a large enough bankroll.
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Old May 17, 2005, 6:14pm   #5
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I recognized my error in taking out too much of my bankroll on one frusteration table. I never recognized any bad plays that I made. I was in no way during any of these losses, out played. Being outplayed I can accept. I was more looking for advice on where to play. I want to hit a casino and clean up some fish but thats not able to happen.
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They don't come fishier than Pacific, but the swings will be huge. You'll need a bankroll of > 25 buyins.
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Old May 17, 2005, 6:21pm   #7
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25 buy ins? alright, thanks for the advice and your time
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Old May 17, 2005, 7:28pm   #8
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Yeah, actually you're right. Maybe I could sell the slogan to 888.com.
How about "Don't try this at home, kids"?
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They don't come fishier than Pacific, but the swings will be huge. You'll need a bankroll of > 25 buyins.
25 buyins seem huge to me. I play the $50 NL tables at Pacific (so that would be $1,250) and keep about 10 to 14 buyins in my bank roll an have not had any problems. Swings happen at Pacific but in at least in my case it has never been over a 4 buyin down turn.

For me this works and I'm comfortable with it. I guess as long as your comfortable and don't feel pressured to 'perform' then all is fine. One thing to remember is that when your having a bad day, simply log off and take a break. Pushing yourself to 'get it back' is never a good idea. Creating your own loss limit in a session will help limit a bank roll depletion. For me it about $75-$100 (1.5 - 2 buyins)

And snipes...stay away from the bigger NL tables. (I know how tempting they look...) It is just way to easy to loose your whole roll there.

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