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Old Jul 20, 2005, 10:07pm   #21
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I'd have raised to 500 preflop and jammed the flop.

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Old Jul 22, 2005, 2:29am   #22
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Men the master did the same thing at the 2004 WSOP ..the flop had 2 hearts and men pushed all in to protect his hand.Unfortunately the guy called and caught a heart. Anyway whats good for men is good for any of us.
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 8:14am   #23
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er...how about no?

men is a poor player (IMHO) and a known cheat. i see very little about him worth emulating.

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Old Jul 22, 2005, 3:39pm   #24
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What means (IMHO) and how can u say a guy with the master in his name is a poor player... i think calling with a flush draw is a poor play, as a matter of fact any all in call when ur an underdog is a poor play


by the way i think when Men went all in the pot was relatively small so the guy didnt had pot odds to make his call, but i think he made his call based on Get Men Out Of the Table odds
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 3:50pm   #25
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but i think he made his call based on Get Men Out Of the Table odds(IMHO)
The first intelligent thing you've ever said (of course you follow it with the IMHO, when you just claimed you didn't know what it meant. Phuktard). If I somehow made it to a final table against the pros, where I knew I would be outplayed, I would be more than happy to get my money in against AA with a flush draw on the flop. I know I couldn't really compete against that level of player, so I'm all for drawing at a chance to bust someone who is better than I am.
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 5:10pm   #26
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as a matter of fact any all in call when ur an underdog is a poor play
$25 million dollars in the pot, 10c on you to call preflop heads up, you have 32o

fold?

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Old Jul 25, 2005, 2:23am   #27
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Not sure if anyone has said this to the guy with the Aces, but just because the flop is rags and you have AA doesn't necessarily mean you have the best hand. With a flop like J, 2, 3, someone could easily have limped in with 22 or 33, or maybe even JJ. But I would've raised at least 500-800 preflop.
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Old Jul 25, 2005, 10:12pm   #28
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Thanks all. But, like I said earlier, AA's are tough to play pre and post-flop unless you hit the nuts. You often give away your hand with aggressive play (i.e. win small pots) and get cracked giving people the opportunity to outdraw you.

I think the overall message is to reduce the field as much as possible given the situation and proceed with caution post-flop. In looking back at all my hands, I think I'm about 50/50 with AA's, but I've been knocked out a lot with them.

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Old Jul 27, 2005, 5:27am   #29
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how often do you see a call on the flop, and an all in on the turn, when the turn couldn't have helped a hand other than a flush draw? you rarely call and see a bluff here.

if you can't lay that hand down, its a leak in your game.
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Slight first of all who the fock are you?, second i watched my post and i dont see any IMHO after get men out , and 3rd who the fock are you?
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