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Old Nov 25, 2005, 8:28pm   #21
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I was making fun of fanpoker's signature that has since been removed.

Sorry if I got your hopes up LM, but no.... most players do not make that much money.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 8:56pm   #22
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Thanks for replying, Hustler. No need to be sorry, my mistake. The reason why I continued to have hope that it might be true even after people told me it was irony was because of this post:

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"The sample plan above suggests that you will need to play 800 hours on average before you can begin to play $20-$40...once you reach $20-$40,you could add over $1,600 a month to your income playing as little as 10 hours a week" Matthew Hilger,'internet texas hold'em" page 259
So what could someone who follow my infamous guide actually expect to make?

I picked 1000hrs because I believed due to the post I am quoting that it would take 800hrs to get close to your maximum potential, and I added 200hrs just to be sure there was enough hours.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 9:15pm   #23
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You can get close to your potential after 800 hours?
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 10:21pm   #24
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You can get close to your potential after 800 hours?
This was my impression when I read the post I referred to and another post from Snaggle quoting some more from the book. This equals for example 30hrs per week for 6 months. That didn´t sound too unreasonable to me.

So this is incorrect too?

How close to your potential would you be after 800hrs?

Is Matthew Hilger lying/exaggerating?
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 10:43am   #25
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just so you know, matthew hilgers book isnt that good. It is way too tight.
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 8:01pm   #26
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Well I have logged over 300 hours of poker now, am I 1/3 of the way to my maximum potential? I sincerely hope not, because I often still play badly. Fortunately for me I know to play against as many worse players as I can (God bless Pacific ). Like most things you just can't force it, it will fall into place in your own time if it's going to fall ever.

You can decide to build a bridge for $X in Y years but you cannot invent a cure for cancer in the same fashion.
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 8:36pm   #27
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Well I have logged over 300 hours of poker now, am I 1/3 of the way to my maximum potential?
According to my infamous guide you should currently make about 1/6 of your potential.

Potential is really the wrong word. What I really meant when I said "close to your potential" was "when the rate of growth of your hourly rate (percentage growth / time) is starting to get really small".

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Like most things you just can't force it, it will fall into place in your own time if it's going to fall ever.

You can decide to build a bridge for $X in Y years but you cannot invent a cure for cancer in the same fashion.
I of course know this, but my point is that if you already have cured 10 000 "similar" deceases and the media asks you to make a qualified guess how long it will take to cure cancer, then your guess would be the expected time it will take.

Pharmas.....Pharmazy.....Drug companies use similar estimates all the time.

It is just like a poker player who sit down for an hour of poker. He knows what his hourly rate is, so that will be the expected profit for that session. As we all know the actual session is likely to be quite different.

Edit: On a second glance, building a bridge and curing cancer is exactly the same, but the variance in the estimates concerning cancer is bigger.
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I have a friend who is good at chess and might be interested in learning poker.

I have heard chess-players are especially suited (my first poker-pun?) to learn poker as they have patience, concentration, discipline to look for leaks, an intense desire to win and the ability to enjoy a monotone game. Is this true?
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I have a hunch you've been reading Elizabeth's posts.

I'm a keen chess player (or I was until I discovered poker). There's some overlap of skills between the two games - I'd add analytical skills to your list - but I'd NEVER describe chess as a montonous game.

It's the most wonderful, beautiful game I've every played, and when computers finally solve it as a puzzle by playing only best or equal-best lines it'll be a sad day.
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Thanks, NorthView.

I am starting to settle for playing poker just for fun now. I can see that I will get bored of poker after a while if I play a lot, and if expected hourly rate is lower than what I thought it is just not worth the attempt to play full-time.

Perhaps (underlined twice) you guys are finally getting through to me.

Is it just me or does this laughing smiley " " look like he has an itch on his nose and can´t scratch it?
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