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Old Jun 24, 2006, 4:12pm   #21
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I don't have theory of poker...is it even a real book?


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Old Jun 25, 2006, 2:44am   #22
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Most of the books are the same. You've read 6, you've read them all.
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Old Jun 26, 2006, 7:26am   #23
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I don't know from experience yet because I'm only 1/2 way through it, but I've heard that "The Super System" by Doyle Brunson is the best poker book out there. But maybe, that's just because it goes into detail about all various games of poker. Not just Texas Holdem, and it's written by the pros!
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Old Jun 26, 2006, 4:03pm   #24
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Be careful reading Super/System because it written for a very different type of game than the low limit games that many people here play. The book contains a lot of pros discussing a lot of fancy plays when really all you need to beat low limit games is a solid, tight ABC strategy.

Lots of beginning tournament chess players will spend a huge amount of time sudying esoteric gambits in obscure openings and then go out and miss a fork that's right in front of them.

Learn the basics (Winning Low Limit Hold 'Em, Small Stakes Hold 'Em), and then worry about the fancy plays when you get to a point when the basic plays don't work anymore.
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Old Jun 27, 2006, 11:46pm   #25
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The most improtant thing is that you don`t have the right bankroll.
You wrote that you won around 250$ and that you play NL50.
What the hell?
I won 711$ in 100h and i still play Nl 25!
Your bankroll should be 20-30 times the buy in.That means around for Nl50 1250$. Did you really have 1000$ send to PP?
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Old Jul 07, 2006, 8:51pm   #26
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All I can say after reading this thread is that - Nojitsu - I wish I could think like you more often.
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 7:42pm   #27
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I started playing online poker (for money) about 6 months ago...lost a couple hundred dollars.

I quit for a few months..but started up again about a month ago. On partypoker I was up 230$, but lost most of that (only up a little bit now) so i started playing on pokerstars and i was up like $130. Finally i was starting to make a little money on the side playing real money online, but today i lost $130 and I'm pretty much back to square one.

The same thing seems to happen. I play .50/1 NL, I buyin for $30 and play fairly tight. Most the time, I win $30 or $40 a day, which is fine for an hour or two of casual fun. I'm also a student, and I work part-time so this is just a little change on the side, so to speak. But today I wasn't hitting ANYTHING and i tried to make a bluf, walked into a nut flush - next thing i know i'm down liike $50. Now I have that urge like i lost $50, and i HAVE to make it back. THe unfortunate thing is that i'm not hitting any flops, and i'm on tilt. So the 3-4 days I was making consistent money every day, all thrown away from one on tilt session in a couple hours. I hate it.

1) How do I avoid these long on tilt sessions? How do you get rid of that urge like "I just lost $50, i gotta try to make it back"? I think if i just walked up and quit when i was down like $30 or $40 I would've been on the right track, but I just couldn't do it.

2) How can I improve my online game to make money? I haven't read a poker book in my life, but I watch WPT on TV all the time, i play at the casino occasionally (and i'm up 75% of the time), and play home-game tournies with my friends. Even tho I'm not winning much (if any) online i still consider myself a good player, I've played in 3 tournies at the casino, and finished final table all three times and won once - so I know i have atleast some game. What do i do?
I'm in your boat as well. When I started I would drop 100 here 100 there....In the beginning it was due to bad playing, but towards the end it was due to bad money management and taking too many risks.

1.Long sessions of losing are common and you just have to accept that. You have to realize good playing in the long run wil be very beneficial, but in short term your not always ahead. Always remember your a good player and in the longurn you will come out ahead of the game.

2.Winning is not necessarily a sign of a good player. A consistent ROI is a much better way to evaluate your playing ability. I would record all of the money spent and your wins/losses, tallying up these numbers every few weeks. By doing this you will see if your actually making money and if your skills need to be evaluated. Also I'd recommend playing in more consistent games. MTT's are a blast, but its hard to make a solid foundation off of MTT play. I'd stick to SNG's or Cash Games to build a solid bankroll and test your poker ability. Good Luck
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 6:22am   #28
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thx for all your advice. Well after losing all my winnings, I watched the video version of 'Theory of Poker' by Dave Sklansky. I learned a lot more about position, and the practical advantages of it. Before I never really played considering position at all, but now knowing more about it has definitely helped.

I deposited $100 again, and started off playing .10-.25 blinds (NL 25). I worked my way up to about $175, then raised the stakes a little to .25-.50 (NL 50). I've been playing smart, not taking too many chances but still having fun by bluffing (successfully and unsuccessfully) on occasion.

I've worked my bankroll to $330 now, and I am feeling very confident. No longer do I have huge swings of 50-100 dollars at a time, I am winning consistently and my stack has been getting larger and larger. Thx for all your tips!
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 6:53am   #29
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Amen Bro! Sounds like you're doing something right!
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Swings are unevitable, I think you are on an upswing right now.

I also think you are not bankrolled for NL50. I think this is good bankroll advice.
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