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Old Jun 17, 2006, 6:52pm   #1
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this was the most loose-aggressive (borderline maniacal) table i've ever been on...i know it's low limit but jeez...it was the first level...

PokerStars Game #5280826921: Tournament #26605472, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/06/17 - 13:45:27 (ET)
Table '26605472 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: zolaboy (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: Nkacuba (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: artjas (1270 in chips)
Seat 4: crajun (1810 in chips)
Seat 5: Jlavallee (1280 in chips)
Seat 6: UL59UCLA54 (1280 in chips)
Seat 7: stinkyfish75 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: SPIDERBITE22 (1950 in chips)
Seat 9: Angiepokes (1420 in chips)
crajun: posts small blind 10
Jlavallee: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zolaboy [2h 3h]
UL59UCLA54: raises 60 to 80
stinkyfish75: folds
SPIDERBITE22: calls 80
Angiepokes: calls 80
zolaboy: folds
Nkacuba: calls 80
artjas: folds
crajun: folds
Jlavallee: raises 220 to 300
UL59UCLA54: raises 980 to 1280 and is all-in
SPIDERBITE22: calls 1200
Angiepokes: folds
Nkacuba: folds
Jlavallee: calls 980 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Tc 3d 3c]
*** TURN *** [Tc 3d 3c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 3d 3c 7c] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jlavallee: shows [9h 9s] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
UL59UCLA54: shows [8d 8c] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
SPIDERBITE22: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
SPIDERBITE22 collected 4010 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4010 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 3d 3c 7c 7s]
Seat 1: zolaboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nkacuba folded before Flop
Seat 3: artjas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: crajun (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Jlavallee (big blind) showed [9h 9s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 6: UL59UCLA54 showed [8d 8c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 7: stinkyfish75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SPIDERBITE22 showed [Js Jc] and won (4010) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 9: Angiepokes folded before Flop

now the guy with JJ actually took time thinking about whether or not he wanted to put that many chips in this early...88 made the push w/o any hesitation and the guy w/ 99 instacalled the other 2 players AI's...very odd...
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 10:12pm   #2
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Its my point again with low buy-in games. Beginners tend to make some very fundamental mistakes

1. They believe too often that the other person is bluffing
2. They bluff themselves too often
3. Overvalue their hands
4. Do not think about what their opponents might hold
5. Do not think about position
6. Have no idea about odds
+ many more

hence its sometimes more gambling than poker.

However, said that playing ultratight poker at the beginning of those games early on usually weeds out the maniacs and when you are down to at least 4 players you usually have a good game.
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Old Jun 27, 2006, 12:34pm   #3
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Well said silu, bad players think that any pair in the whole or an ace in their hand is invinsible.
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