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Old Jul 02, 2006, 1:15am   #1
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So I play a lot of SnG's on PokerStars and often times when people get a bad beat on the river, they'll make a comment about riverstars, insinuating that this kind of thing happens more often on PokerStars than on other sites. I have never put any stock into these kinds of theories. With the kind of money they make, it wouldn't make sense for the online casinos to be anything less than 100% legitimate with their cards, they'd just lose business. After playing a lot of SnG's however, horrible river beats seem to happen fairly frequently. This isn't some whiny thread about how many bad beats I take, just a whiny thread about how many I witness. Any thoughts on this?
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Old Jul 02, 2006, 2:06am   #2
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Heres my toughts on this:

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With the kind of money they make, it wouldn't make sense for the online casinos to be anything less than 100% legitimate with their cards, they'd just lose business.
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Old Jul 02, 2006, 10:02pm   #3
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I thought that his happened at Full Tilt as well but then I was on the receiving end of a nice river card several times in a row. Same on Poker Stars, same in my casino, same at Party,...... You cannot mathematically comprehend that anyone would rigg a poker deck if thousands and thousands of people can collect statistics about each hand played.

The chances of being found out are huge but then hey, Enron was supposed to be a legitimate business.
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 4:54am   #4
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However, what you can comprehend is that the incentives for rigging are huge if the rigging involved results in increased rake. To increase rake legitimately, you need to advertise, sign partnership deals to drive traffic, hand out bonuses, and so on.

On the other hand, a couple of days drawing up the schemes, a few hours of programming - that is hardly any expense at all - and you can get the same result. Basically without any costs. It doesnt get much better, thats for sure.

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Old Jul 05, 2006, 10:33am   #5
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I play at pokerstars all the time, and see the "riverstars" comments all the time. Its true you witness a lot of river beats there, but you witness tons of more times when the hand that is winning on the turn, wins on the river. Most peoples brains only remember the time they lost on the river, but not when their hand held up to the river.

My friend cant seem to make any money on stars and always complains he gets rivered or bad beated/ but i go and look at these hands and a lot of the time its a hand he shouldnt have been in anyways. like he calls a raise with A6o and flops two pair. only to be rivered by higher two pair to AKs. i still to this day cant get him to fold A-rag to a legitimate raise preflop
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