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Old Aug 05, 2006, 10:48pm   #21
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Read this Skid - scroll down to my post . http://www.pokertips.org/phpBB2/view...r=asc&start=45

Someone else very much in the position you are in now, found it useful.
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 11:14pm   #22
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 11:21pm   #23
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 12:33am   #24
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Any help here......or just sarcasm & ridicule ??
everyone here is happy to help, but nothing can be done about bad beats. post a serious question with a specific problem and you will get help. Would you prefer if we post questions for you and then score your answers?
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 12:55am   #25
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My Grandma puts together "Jigsaws".....I'm a poker player !!

My Grandma doesn't need help with her game....I do !!

Any help here......or just sarcasm & ridicule ??


I've stated facts to the tee in most of my posts...if it sounds like I'm just whining all the time to all you people - then so be it.
I've pretty much resorted to sarcasm and ridicule to be honest. And yes I apologize for misreading your hand history I was just assuming it was yet another I went all in pre flop and lost a 65/35 situation. Just out of interest here's your percentage in the hand in question AFTER the flop when you went All-In yet again with nowhere close to a huge advantage.

Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ks Js 2s
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qd 433 43.74 557 56.26 0 0.00 0.437
Jd Kh 557 56.26 433 43.74 0 0.00 0.563

So yes indeed you lost with an ASTONISHING 6 fucking percent advantage.
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 1:16am   #26
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YES YES YES.....Muy , Can that be done , And if it can ?... Do it to me !! Post me some ??'s

I have been watching the videos from this site ( Hustlr Ozone etc. ) - and these guys are good , I have also read a bunch of articles here too .

I really seem to have no clue as to play anyway but the way my 2 cards say.
I have raised & bluffed somewhat...just to be re-raised & they have the hand
After awhile of that- I get to where I say to myself....why raise -cause when the flop comes out & I don't hit it , then someone else bangs it & takes my pre-raise.

The only reason I came to the "Beginners Corner" in the first place & spilled my poker career out to you is because I guess I believe that I am a ( 10 yr - 3 yr online ) beginner that has takin some horrendous hits to my hands that were better goin into the pot . . . . And its just been goin on daily lately!!

One thing I do know , Is that I am losing over & over again & its taking a serious toll on me !!

HELP ME
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 1:18am   #27
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Sorry Strewgs....I do believe you can read !!
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 2:33am   #28
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Skid, it would be much better if you posted specific questions you have, but here's some food for thought.
6 Max NL
1) you are in the CO with 98s. UTG+1 limps and the SB is TAG and the BB is loose passive. What's your move?

2) You hold KK on the button. UTG raises 3X the BB, and has been known to be loose and aggressive. What do you do?

3) You are in a hand with KsQs (I know its not top 5, but were loosing up your game. The pot is 3 handed with 12BB. You are last to act.
Flop comes TsJs4c. UTG raises pot and the 2nd to act pushes for the rest of his stack. What's your move?

4) You hold 55 in LP. UTG raises 4X the BB, and is known to be very tight. He is called by MP. Do you raise, call or fold? You all have 100BB stacks.

LOL, I didn't really think to much into these, but i'd like to see your answers to see how you actually play. Sorry if they suck, i was kinda hoping you would post YOUR HH's and questions, instead of having us do so for you. And no, I don't mean more bad beats.
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 2:46am   #29
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Specific Question about this hand I just played it 5 minutes ago on UB.com

Did I play it wrong ??.....And what did I do wrong ??
I didn't post it cause of the "Beat"...I just wonder if I played wrong or not ??.....I flopped 2 pair & I knew I had him !!

Hand #33598812-11640 at Addison (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 05/Aug/06 22:33:56

Char-Lez is at seat 0 with $21.92 (sitting out).
xridlebox2 is at seat 1 with $11.85.
AcesofTexas is at seat 2 with $3.90.
TDM101 is at seat 3 with $10.62.
flaht1 is at seat 4 with $11.65.
SKID 1---->> is at seat 5 with $6.90.
The button is at seat 2.

TDM101 posts the small blind of $.05.
flaht1 posts the big blind of $.10.

xridlebox2: -- --
AcesofTexas: -- --
TDM101: -- --
flaht1: -- --
SKID 1------>> 8d As

Pre-flop:

SKID 1------>> calls. xridlebox2 folds. AcesofTexas
raises to $.45. TDM101 folds. flaht1 folds.
SKID 1---->> calls.

Flop (board: Ac 8c Ts):

SKID 1----->> bets $.10. AcesofTexas raises to $1.35.
SKID 1----->> goes all-in for $6.45. AcesofTexas goes
all-in for $3.45. SKID 1---->> is returned $3
(uncalled).

Turn (board: Ac 8c Ts Js):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Ac 8c Ts Js 2c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

SKID 1----->> shows 8d As.
SKID 1----->> has 8d As Ac 8c Js: two pair, aces and eights.
AcesofTexas shows Tc Jc.
AcesofTexas has Tc Jc Ac 8c 2c: flush, ace high.


Hand #33598812-11640 Summary:

$.35 is raked from a pot of $7.95.
AcesofTexas wins $7.60 with flush, ace high.
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 2:56am   #30
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One suggestion would be to play Limit Poker instead of NL. Then any mistake or bad beat is relatively minor (if you are playing at a limit for which you are properly bankrolled), cannot take your entire stack, and might be less upsetting.

Another suggestion would be to start analyzing your winning hands, not just your losing ones. I had a very positive session today in online limit. I won 7 large pots that went to the showdown and lost 2 to river suckouts. (in one, I flopped trip 7s and a player with 55 caught runner-runner 5s to make quads to my top full house).

Ignoring small pots and hands that didn't go to the showdown, I looked up the HH of the big winners and found:

4 times I flopped the best hand and it stayed best.

1 time I flopped a good flush draw, had pot odds to draw, and hit. (Of course, other times I had the draw, missed, and folded before the end.)

2 times I sucked out other players (i.e. had AK, missed the flop, stayed because it was cheap, and caught RR K-A to beat two lower pair.)

So what happened? I benefitted from lucky suckouts as often as they hurt me. (I usually benefit less 'cuz I don't stay in with weak hands as much as most opponents.) In other words, luck evened out.

The rest of the time, I won by flopping the best hand or best draw and continuing. Not very dramatic, huh?

If you analyze your winning hands, you might find the same thing.

Incidentally, on hand 34033217-73, was it prudent to go all-in with three spades on the flop and you had no spades?

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