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Old Aug 23, 2006, 3:47am   #11
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Update!

It just happened again. For the 5th time in 3 days, I had KK, had to call all-in preflop and lost to AA.

Yeah I know, it's just a coincidence and this isn't rigged and blahblah...

I just can't believe how often it happens.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 5:11am   #12
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If any of you are actually folding KK preflop I guarntee you are costing yourself money.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 10:55am   #13
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Perhaps you should talk to Phil Helmuth LOL

He had some problems in the WSOP like you are having.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 1:04pm   #14
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Perhaps you should talk to Phil Helmuth LOL

He had some problems in the WSOP like you are having.
LOL. "They won't let me win a hand!"
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 1:11pm   #15
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Only once have I ever laid KK down before the flop. In a cash game deep stacked a rock moved on the 4th raise. He did show AA. Every other time I have gone broke, and will continue to do so.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 2:05pm   #16
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Update!
It just happened again. For the 5th time in 3 days, I had KK, had to call all-in preflop and lost to AA.
Good news is if it keeps happening you are due to hit a set over the next 3 occurences
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Old Aug 25, 2006, 1:17am   #17
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In my opinion it is possible to fold KK preflop ,i mean when u play nl every day on the same site u ll soon identify the rocks they r always at least 2 or 3 at every tables and they surely won t move all their chips with QQ or AK unless u have some reason to believe they suspect u r a verry loose player and u did shove in the past with weaker hand than AK or QQ.I have layed down KK many times and i never second guessed myself when i did so.
exemple1/2nl : a verry tight player that u know verry well limp utg (he knows u has a solid player ) u are on the button u raise to 12 with KK everyone fold back to him he reraise 40.
At this point he is screaming to u I HAVE AA!!!!!I mean c mon he is verry tight and he know ur raises preflop means something he wouldn t reraise with QQ and he could even lay down AK there.It is too EZ to say "oh well" and shove here.Those are situations that "fortunetly" happen when u have KK and i say fortunetly coz it s some of the rares occasions where u could save a lot with KK vs AA. The rest of the time u just have to take it in the chin then scream WOOOZZZZAA!! and go back into it.
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Old Aug 25, 2006, 1:21am   #18
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Man, I want to sit at your table. All I have to do to get you to lay down KK,QQ preflop is to reraise you? SWEET!
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Old Aug 25, 2006, 1:43am   #19
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Oh well i expected those comments
First I said u could lay down KK verry rarely but still that means u could.
Second the type of players i describe in my exemple are the rocks the type of players that always show the best hand ,that are extremly tight preflop and verry disciplinate ,and they are a few of em on every table.
And third u will have to convince me before being able to make me lay down those KK that u are this kind of player (and that could not happen before i play a few month with u dude) .
I t s a judgement call but as i said i did layed down KK a few times and was verry confident that this was the right move.
i play cash table professionally since 2 years on the same site and this means i have played thousands of hand with the same sharks every days,trust me when i say i folded those kind of hand being at least 90% sure that this was the right move against those type of oponents.
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Old Aug 25, 2006, 3:55am   #20
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So if the planets align you'll fold KK preflop? K, I just play it everytime.
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