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Old Oct 02, 2006, 5:39pm   #1
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Hi everyone,

I've already read alot in this forum, now that my first post. I just have to you tell this bad beat:

$5+$0.5 SnG at Europoker. I've had a bad day and already lost some SnGs. Then I finnally see a chance to get in the money. Top 3 payed, 4 left.
(For those who don't speak german: Mitgehen=Call , Erhöhen=Raise)

Tisch 'Berlin': 20-20 No Limit HE (TournamentChips)
Platz 0: x biber (1.765 in Chips)
Platz 4: Maestro4854 (1.400 in Chips) (am Knopf)
Platz 6: AllPartyAce (2.315 in Chips)
Platz 9: IbindaChef (9.520 in Chips)
*** Blind-Bet-Runde *** :
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qs
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qc
AllPartyAce: Blind zahlen (200)
IbindaChef: Blind zahlen (400)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
x biber: Passen
Maestro4854: Passen
AllPartyAce: Mitgehen (200)
IbindaChef: Checken
*** Flop *** : Jc 5d 6h
AllPartyAce: Checken
IbindaChef: Checken
*** Turn *** : [ Jc 5d 6h ] 3s
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qs
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qc
Ausgeteilt an IbindaChef: 9d
Ausgeteilt an IbindaChef: 3h
AllPartyAce: Checken
IbindaChef: Setzen (800)
AllPartyAce: Erhöhen (1.915)
AllPartyAce: All-in (1.915)
IbindaChef: Mitgehen (1.115)
*** River *** : [ Jc 5d 6h 3s ] 9s
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qs
Ausgeteilt an AllPartyAce: Qc
Ausgeteilt an IbindaChef: 9d
Ausgeteilt an IbindaChef: 3h

what made him call that ?
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Old Oct 02, 2006, 6:28pm   #2
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Dude, you played it horribly, honestly...
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Old Oct 02, 2006, 7:00pm   #3
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The FPS got u on that one.... "Fancy Play Syndrome"
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Old Oct 02, 2006, 7:48pm   #4
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Here's why you lost.

http://www.pokertips.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28349

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Old Oct 02, 2006, 8:08pm   #5
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http://www.pokertips.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28349

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Old Oct 02, 2006, 8:23pm   #6
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Dude, you played it horribly, honestly...
I'm a newbie so i'd like to know how you would have played it. That is what I thought:
I know that slowplaying PPs is a very bad idea but I was sure that he would fold on any preflop or flop bet, he always did it. And I also was sure that he would bet on flop or turn if I checked. As there were no A or K, moved in.
Maybe I played it horrible, but you must admit that his call wasn't good neither.
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Old Oct 03, 2006, 9:07am   #7
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I'm a newbie so i'd like to know how you would have played it. That is what I thought:
I know that slowplaying PPs is a very bad idea but I was sure that he would fold on any preflop or flop bet, he always did it.
If you have this kind of read on the OP raise every time in this situation to steal his BB, don't give the OP a free flop to beat your big hands. Only slowplay a big hand preflop if you are sure that a loose/agressive player will raise you if you limp.

He called because you hadn't given him any reason to think he was beat and his Pot Odds were around 3:1.
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Old Oct 03, 2006, 3:18pm   #8
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If you have this kind of read on the OP raise every time in this situation to steal his BB
I felt like I have to get more out of him than just the BB. How could I've made that or is it simply the best to take the Blind with hands like that ?

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He called because you hadn't given him any reason to think he was beat and his Pot Odds were around 3:1.
Actually it was my intention to make him call with a weak hand. And in fact he had 11% odds on that call. That's why I felt .
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Wait wait wait hold up, whats Checken mean?
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I felt like I have to get more out of him than just the BB. How could I've made that or is it simply the best to take the Blind with hands like that ?



Actually it was my intention to make him call with a weak hand. And in fact he had 11% odds on that call. That's why I felt .
With an 'M' of less than 4 you should be pushing any two reasonable cards, AI or fold, don't get fancy. The OP's Pot Odds were 3515/1115 or just over 3/1 which is different to his odds of winning the hand. His call was definitely -EV but as I posted before he probably didn't realise he was only 11% to win the hand as you hadn't shown any strength until the turn and then the Pot Odds priced him in to making the call anyway.

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