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Old Nov 28, 2006, 12:20am   #1
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Hey guys, I got so much feedback on the PP's post I decided to do another. I think these semi-general posts help a ton. And as always, thanks for the feedback I will use 100NL as the basis for the post.

So, C-Betting in 6maxNL -

For all of these examples, lets assume you raised 4x PF w/ Ah Kd
I guess ill just go A,B,C, ect... and you guys can write out how much you would C-Bet (If you would). (Full stacks for all live players)

Case #1: Out of postion - 2 callers - Pot is $12.00

A: Jh 5c 2s
B: Jh 5h 2h
C: Th Js 2c
D: 2s 3s 5c

Case # 2: Out of postion - 1 caller - Pot is $8.00

E: Jh 5c 2s
F: Th Qs 2c
G: 2h 2s 2c
H:

Case # 3: In position - 3 callers - Checked to you - Pot is $16.00

I: Jh 5c 2s
J: 3s 3h Tc
K: 5s 8c Th
L: Ts Th 2c

Case # 4: In position - 2 callers - Checked to you - Pot is $12.00

M: Jh 5c 2s
N: 4c 5c Qh
O: 7s 8c 9s
P: 4c 4h Js



I guess just copy and past this into your post and write the ammount you would C-Bet (or just say check if you wouldnt) ... and maybe on some controversial flops write a brief reason why you would C-Bet that ammount.



A: $
B: $
C: $
D: $
E: $
F: $
G: $
H: $
I: $
J: $
K: $
L: $

M: $
N: $
O: $
P: $



Just reply when you get time... Thanks guys!






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Old Nov 28, 2006, 1:52am   #2
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A-H: 2/3 of the pot. (I cannot remember the last time I didn't c-bet a heads up pot, btw.)

I-L depend on the table but I probably don't bet. I doubt everyone folds, you're liable to get checkraised by EP, you're probably behind if you get called, etc. I'd be raising 5-7x with limpers in front of my raise, by the way.

I probably bet 2/3 on M and P. I might bet out on O, but only if I thought any draws would fold to a PSB. N is wierd because of the queen, but I probably bet that too.
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 8:55am   #3
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So, C-Betting in 6maxNL -

For all of these examples, lets assume you raised 4x PF w/ Ah Kd
I guess ill just go A,B,C, ect... and you guys can write out how much you would C-Bet (If you would). (Full stacks for all live players)

Case #1: Out of postion - 2 callers - Pot is $12.00

A: Jh 5c 2s
B: Jh 5h 2h
C: Th Js 2c
D: 2s 3s 5c

Case # 2: Out of postion - 1 caller - Pot is $8.00

E: Jh 5c 2s
F: Th Qs 2c
G: 2h 2s 2c
H:

Case # 3: In position - 3 callers - Checked to you - Pot is $16.00

I: Jh 5c 2s
J: 3s 3h Tc
K: 5s 8c Th
L: Ts Th 2c

Case # 4: In position - 2 callers - Checked to you - Pot is $12.00

M: Jh 5c 2s
N: 4c 5c Qh
O: 7s 8c 9s
P: 4c 4h Js



I guess just copy and past this into your post and write the ammount you would C-Bet (or just say check if you wouldnt) ... and maybe on some controversial flops write a brief reason why you would C-Bet that ammount.



A: $Half the pot:$6
B: $Half-Two Thirds Pot: $6-$8: Reason for betting straight out on the flop: No one will really expect you to bet out a made hand on the flop there, and with the Ace of hearts, even if the opponents have hit a set or two pair on the flop, you still have a ton of outs.
C: $Half the pot: $6: Continuation bet, with outs against two pair, or a set, probably will get AJ or J9 to put more money in
D: $Two thirds Pot: $8: Continuation, callers must probably be on high cards or medium pairs, you can get them to possibly lay down
E: $Check (with the intention of check raising)
F: $Continuation bet of half to two-thirds pot: $8
G: $$6, but Id be worried, most likely a check would be in order, because most callers woud have high cards or a pckt pair.
H: $Dunno, preflop AK is a great hand
I: $Lead out $6
J: $Check (with the intention of check raising)
K: $Continuation bet $6
L: $Check (check raise)- or if good read on them, moderate bet $5, $6, something that makes my opponent want to fold. Small bet

M: $half the pot
N: $two thirds pot
O: $check (check raise)
P: $Bet half the pot



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Old Nov 28, 2006, 9:46am   #4
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I will c-bet half to two thirds the pot on basically every board with 1 or 2 callers (assuming it's checked to me, when I'm in position). OOP, it is read dependant, I will not c-bet unimproved into someone that can't ever fold anything, but will check behind me. Generally though I c-bet into one or two callers a lot. I don't check-raise very often, and when I do it, it's usually not on the flop that much, but I suppose a case could be made for it on some of these boards. If I get check-raised on M through P, that's where a read would come in handy, but absent any I'd probably fold.

The examples where I might not c-bet are O, because it scares me and I'd like to see how my opponents react to the turn, and I don't mind laying down AK here, and I-L because there are 3 callers. As Frog pointed out, I'd raise more pf to get rid of those pesky limpers, so it's unlikely I'd find myself in this type of situation. Depending on the opponents I might fire out once, then shut down if called and no A or K comes on the turn. I may very well check behind and fold to a turn bet, though. Someone is bound to be ahead of me here.
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 12:33pm   #5
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All of the Case 1 and 2 is a yes, especially case 2. Two thirds of the pot at a lower Limit and about half the pot at a higher limit. I would bet J and L in case 3 most of the time and the other two are rare. Case 4 continuation bet all of them.
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 11:02pm   #6
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hmm... this is me

A: $8.00
B: $8.00

C: $8.00
D: $8.00
E: $8.00
F: $0.00
G: $8.00
H: $0.00
I: $10.00
J: $0.00
K: $0.00
L: $0.00

M: $8.00
N: $8.00
O: $0.00
P: $10.00
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