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Hand # 1 7 38.89%
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Neither; since the opponent won the hand, (s)he must have played it best. 7 38.89%
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Old Mar 09, 2007, 6:15pm   #1
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Default Which (bad) beat was more retarded?

I've got two (bad beat) hands I'd like to get some opinions on.

Neither of them is anything special, or anywhere where I can 'improve' my play to stop the beats or anything, except to say I should learn to run better.

What makes these hands special is that they are among the stupidest plays I've ever seen rewarded. And I'd like to hear opinions on which was stupider, just because it will be fun.

Note that neither of these was a misclick, both were the intentional action of my opponents (the 2nd one would have had to ben 3 misclicks in a row anyway, and the first one, the player defended his play afterwards, so no misclicks there either). Also, since both chatted with me after, we can rule out that they had a heart attack/stroke and died on the hotkey for call, which also appeared likely afterwards.

So here are the hands: Which is more retarded?

Hand one:

$400 No-limit, 5 players seated. Effective stacks are about $400, except for UTG who has only $116.

UTG raises to $20.
UTG+1 folds.
Button (King Donkulous) calls $20.
SB folds.
I call in the big blind with ThTs

Flop: 2d4s2s

I check
UTG bets out $40
King Donkulous calls $40
I raise to $150 total
UTG calls all-in.
King Donkulous calls $110.

Turn: 5d, making the board 2s4s2s5d.

I bet the rest of my stack (a little less than $150 at this point).
King Donkulous does what he does best and calls.

River: Kd.

UTG shows 77, I show my tens, and King Donkulous turns over... QhKs. KQ offsuit? Yeah, that's not a typo either, even the suits are correct (he didn't have any flush draw or backdoor draw).

King Donkulous scoops the pot and tells us all how the best player won with the best hand and deserved it therefore (hey look! He's a determinist! He's probably got a few people here who would have to agree with his logic. )


Hand 2:

$400 no limit, 4 players seated.

UTG folds
Button folds
I'm in the sb with AQh, I raise to $15 total.
BB (Lord Luckbox von RunningCards) calls the $11 raise.

Flop: TsAdJd

I bet out $20.
Lord Luckbox von RunningCards calls $20.

Turn: 8h, making the board TsAdJd8h

I bet out $30.
Lord Luckbox von RunningCards calls $30.

River: 8c.

I bet out $40.
Lord Luckbox von RunningCards calls $40.

I turn over AQh, he turns over... 7s8s. Yeah, he hit running trips after having only a gutshot draw to the sucker end on the flop (and not even a running flush draw - he could have been drawing completely dead to KQ, and diamonds aren't his friend), and he didn't even raise me on the river (which I love).

Funny thing was he typed 'sorry' in the chat so quickly I had to be polite and not say the things I wanted to. I just asked him if he misclicked 3 times straight, or did the key get stuck etc. The comments of others at the table were priceless, but for the sake of politeness we'll just leave it at that.


So which was the more retarded beat? On the one hand, the first hand wasn't as bad statistically, but dude put all his chips in (not just some) with nothing. The second one is absurd in that he REALLY had nothing (not even overs) but he also didn't call all-in on the turn with his nothing.

So... ???

PS - these hands barely stratch the surface for me when it comes to real bad luck, I'm not posting them to vent about it (I have far worse examples I won't post), I just thought everyone might get a kick out of deciding which hand was more ridiculous.

EDIT - had to clean up some of my words on the second hand.
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Old Mar 09, 2007, 6:28pm   #2
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I vote the first one. Horrible, horrible play by King Donkulous.
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Old Mar 09, 2007, 6:33pm   #3
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I vote the first one. Horrible, horrible play by King Donkulous.
I almost wish his screen name really was King Donkulous... as it is, that's more or less what the note on him says.
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I love when the bad players boast about how great they are. I was just in a session with someone like that, I stayed at the table until he went bust. Too bad it wasn't too me.
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I hate to be stuck playing so low when the play at this level is so bad.

I think the level of play is better in quarter games than that.
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I hate to be stuck playing so low when the play at this level is so bad.

I think the level of play is better in quarter games than that.
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get up there eventually.

And when you do play there, I'm sure the games will be even softer.
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I voted the third option just so I could see TWLLM go off on the fact someone(s) actualyl voted that!
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Both are classic sick beats. AND Jimmy the players at .25/.5 are better then the 2/4, ask any1 that has played both..

I'll vote yes!......

P.S. TWLLM your poll isn't looking so hot
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I voted the third option just so I could see TWLLM go off on the fact someone(s) actualyl voted that!
Hahah.

Looks like my donkey trap caught more than my hunting limit. I might have to throw some back.
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Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get up there eventually.

And when you do play there, I'm sure the games will be even softer.
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