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Old Jul 25, 2007, 9:27am   #21
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First hand I call and he showed . Second hand I called looking to Check/raise the turn but hit my straight. So I checked raised anyway and he shoved and showed me .
Wow @ 2nd hand, I guess he doesnt like to fold.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 12:11pm   #22
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Wow @ 2nd hand, I guess he doesnt like to fold.
Yeah I was a bit suprised but not completely shocked. There really are not that many hands that beat his and it is possible that I am bluffing that card.
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Old Jul 28, 2007, 1:22pm   #23
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Well I just spent 40mins lugging a massive suitcase, rucksack and an annoyingly heavy laptop from one halls of residence to another. The good news is that now I have internet access in my room so... it's HU time again baby!!!!

Thoughts on the following hands are welcome.

I'm currently using my sisters laptop so I have no poker programs at all and so I'm doing things old school (not that those things matter that much for HU anyway). I recognise my opponent but I'm not sure where from, possibly from the 10/20 games but I'm not sure. We start playing 1 table then he asks to play another 10/20 hu one too but we agree to play another 5/10, so basically the "game" is pretty fast paced. From what I can gather from my opponent is that he is a good, tight aggressive HU player but probably a little overly aggressive post flop and 3bets pretty light. He is generally tight in the BB and seems to prefer to 3bet rather than fold.

This is my first game in around a week so I decide to get back into the swing of things by spewing early. Given his timing I thought I could get him to fold a lot on the river, plus we had never played before so I think he really has to give me credit for a 5. But that said it is probably still spewy, but atleast I got it out of the way early and I can now exploit that image.

Seat 1: lanausee ($1000 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1198 in chips)
lanausee: posts small blind $5
shads: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [Ts 8c]
lanausee: raises to $35
shads: calls $25
----- FLOP ----- [5d 4h 5c]
shads: checks
lanausee: bets $55
shads: raises to $150
lanausee: calls $95
----- TURN ----- [5d 4h 5c][Qc]
shads: bets $240
lanausee: calls $240
----- RIVER ----- [5d 4h 5c Qc][3h]
shads: bets $773 and is all-in
lanausee: is all-in $575
Returned uncalled bets $198 to shads
----- SHOW DOWN -----
shads: shows [Ts 8c] (A Pair of Fives, Queen high)
lanausee: shows [Qh 9s] (Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Nine high)

So now you have seen the spew, its time for the real hands. They are in order of appearance.

Seat 1: lanausee ($1489 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1506 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [Qh Jh]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: calls $20
----- FLOP ----- [Kh 8h Tc]
lanausee: checks
shads: bets $40
lanausee: calls $40
----- TURN ----- [Kh 8h Tc][2h]
lanausee: bets $50
shads: raises to $170
lanausee: raises to $550
shads: ???

Turn play? (and river if you need it)


Seat 1: lanausee ($2388 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($994 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [9d Ac]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: calls $20
----- FLOP ----- [Th 7c Ts]
lanausee: checks
shads: checks
----- TURN ----- [Th 7c Ts][5c]
lanausee: bets $45
shads: calls $45
----- RIVER ----- [Th 7c Ts 5c][Ad]
lanausee: checks
shads: bets $110
lanausee: raises to $400
shads: ???

Thoughts on this river?


Seat 1: lanausee ($2402 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1167 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [7d Td]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: raises to $140
shads: calls $110
----- FLOP ----- [Kd Ks 9c]
lanausee: bets $190
shads: calls $190
----- TURN ----- [Kd Ks 9c][7c]
lanausee: bets $395
shads: raises to $837 and is all-in
lanausee: ...

Thoughts on this whole hand please. Background is that he has 3bet me a decent amount but generally I have been folding because I have had garbage, this is probably only like the 1st or 2nd time I've called.


Thanks!
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Old Jul 28, 2007, 4:18pm   #24
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Well I just spent 40mins lugging a massive suitcase, rucksack and an annoyingly heavy laptop from one halls of residence to another. The good news is that now I have internet access in my room so... it's HU time again baby!!!!

Thoughts on the following hands are welcome.

I'm currently using my sisters laptop so I have no poker programs at all and so I'm doing things old school (not that those things matter that much for HU anyway). I recognise my opponent but I'm not sure where from, possibly from the 10/20 games but I'm not sure. We start playing 1 table then he asks to play another 10/20 hu one too but we agree to play another 5/10, so basically the "game" is pretty fast paced. From what I can gather from my opponent is that he is a good, tight aggressive HU player but probably a little overly aggressive post flop and 3bets pretty light. He is generally tight in the BB and seems to prefer to 3bet rather than fold.

This is my first game in around a week so I decide to get back into the swing of things by spewing early. Given his timing I thought I could get him to fold a lot on the river, plus we had never played before so I think he really has to give me credit for a 5. But that said it is probably still spewy, but atleast I got it out of the way early and I can now exploit that image.

Seat 1: lanausee ($1000 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1198 in chips)
lanausee: posts small blind $5
shads: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [Ts 8c]
lanausee: raises to $35
shads: calls $25
----- FLOP ----- [5d 4h 5c]
shads: checks
lanausee: bets $55
shads: raises to $150
lanausee: calls $95
----- TURN ----- [5d 4h 5c][Qc]
shads: bets $240
lanausee: calls $240
----- RIVER ----- [5d 4h 5c Qc][3h]
shads: bets $773 and is all-in
lanausee: is all-in $575
Returned uncalled bets $198 to shads
----- SHOW DOWN -----
shads: shows [Ts 8c] (A Pair of Fives, Queen high)
lanausee: shows [Qh 9s] (Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Nine high)

So now you have seen the spew, its time for the real hands. They are in order of appearance.

Seat 1: lanausee ($1489 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1506 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [Qh Jh]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: calls $20
----- FLOP ----- [Kh 8h Tc]
lanausee: checks
shads: bets $40
lanausee: calls $40
----- TURN ----- [Kh 8h Tc][2h]
lanausee: bets $50
shads: raises to $170
lanausee: raises to $550
shads: ???

Turn play? (and river if you need it)


Seat 1: lanausee ($2388 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($994 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [9d Ac]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: calls $20
----- FLOP ----- [Th 7c Ts]
lanausee: checks
shads: checks
----- TURN ----- [Th 7c Ts][5c]
lanausee: bets $45
shads: calls $45
----- RIVER ----- [Th 7c Ts 5c][Ad]
lanausee: checks
shads: bets $110
lanausee: raises to $400
shads: ???

Thoughts on this river?


Seat 1: lanausee ($2402 in chips)
Seat 2: shads ($1167 in chips)
shads: posts small blind $5
lanausee: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to shads [7d Td]
shads: raises to $30
lanausee: raises to $140
shads: calls $110
----- FLOP ----- [Kd Ks 9c]
lanausee: bets $190
shads: calls $190
----- TURN ----- [Kd Ks 9c][7c]
lanausee: bets $395
shads: raises to $837 and is all-in
lanausee: ...

Thoughts on this whole hand please. Background is that he has 3bet me a decent amount but generally I have been folding because I have had garbage, this is probably only like the 1st or 2nd time I've called.


Thanks!
I'm fairly new to this heads up stuff but i still think he played the first hand badly. He should have in my opinion folded either the flop or the turn but maybe justified call on the river.

2nd hand I think you have to fold. Whether he has the flush or not doesn't really matter seeing as you can't beat anything but a bluff. It looks to me like it could be a semi bluff with a pair of tens or something.

3rd hand I would definitely call, it looks like a missed flush draw. I don't think theres anyway he has a stronger ace, the only hand i'd be worried about is a 10 of some description.

4th hand I think he may well have been caught in a bluff here. The turn bet looks a bit weak in my opinion. If he had a King surely he'd bet more seeing as you've shown no signs of folding. And if he has AA QQ JJ i think the shove has got to make him think you have a king.

Anyway now for my question. As i'm playing the micro heads ups on stars from time to time you occasionally get people who are all in every hand. What sort of ranges do you need to call these people?
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Wow I just found out that this guy plays stakes from 10/20 up to £100/£200nl aka $200/$400 wtf!!
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Old Jul 28, 2007, 6:39pm   #27
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hi,
i wanted to play hu cashgames in the future.
i'd never played nl only fl up to the midstakes and i wanted to know, wheter i should began 6max or hu. I played some hands fl hu and now i would test nl hu
which bankrollmanagment i need to play nl hu cashgames?
And where should i start, e.g. @ titan poker, where the lowest limit is nl50? or should i start at another site and if where is a good balance between rake, players and rakeback?
Please help, thanks
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Hand One: Big Spew I am done on the turn.
Hand Two: Turn is interesting because you have position. You can just call and shove any non heart river or you can raise now and try and get him in now. He seems like a bit of a station and you have shown some bluffs so I would probably put it in now.
Hand Three: Good bet this is a bluff so often against a half-way decent player, I call here.
Hand Four: Interesting hand all around. I love to make these kind of gambles but I think you need to fold preflop. The rest of the hand is pretty standard though.

Also one thing that I have learned the hard way is not to bluff an unknown early in a heads-up match. I have lost 2 buy-ins on bluffs because I did it too early in a heads-up match. I normally play small ball for a little while (first 10-15 hands) and then hopefully get an opportunity to go in for the kill. But as you know it does not always work out that way.
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Also one thing that I have learned the hard way is not to bluff an unknown early in a heads-up match. I have lost 2 buy-ins on bluffs because I did it too early in a heads-up match. I normally play small ball for a little while (first 10-15 hands) and then hopefully get an opportunity to go in for the kill. But as you know it does not always work out that way.
Yea I normally try to start out tight then add in some spew but to be honest I think I missed poker over the last week and I was a bit too happy to play (badly) again, so I resumed doing what I like best - spewing.

Out of curiosity, do you view the shove on hand 4 as a value bet or a bluff? Or both? Perhaps say folds 88 but calls with draws?
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