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Old Sep 27, 2007, 2:33am   #1
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Yeah I know my play is very easily critizable but the table has been crazy and I figured I had a shot at winning this pot even with all the action and my mediocre hand.

PokerStars Game #12291053022: Razz Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/09/26 - 22:26:33 (ET)
Table 'Severny' 8-max
Seat 1: Seb86 ($121.25 in chips)
Seat 2: badcyn ($17 in chips)
Seat 3: luffeme ($149.25 in chips)
Seat 4: anoll111 ($72 in chips)
Seat 5: railbirdking ($59.25 in chips)
Seat 6: pumpkins0 ($53.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Robbo ($18.25 in chips)
Seat 8: ttbaseball ($114 in chips)
Seb86: posts the ante $0.25
badcyn: posts the ante $0.25
luffeme: posts the ante $0.25
anoll111: posts the ante $0.25
railbirdking: posts the ante $0.25
pumpkins0: posts the ante $0.25
Robbo: posts the ante $0.25
ttbaseball: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Seb86 [6c 7h 5h]
Dealt to badcyn [5d]
Dealt to luffeme [6h]
Dealt to anoll111 [3h]
Dealt to railbirdking [4d]
Dealt to pumpkins0 [Ks]
Dealt to Robbo [8s]
Dealt to ttbaseball [Qc]
pumpkins0: bets $2
railbirdking said, "mules"
Robbo: folds
ttbaseball: folds
Seb86: raises $2 to $4
badcyn: folds
luffeme: folds
anoll111: calls $4
railbirdking: folds
pumpkins0: raises $2 to $6
Seb86: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
anoll111: calls $4
pumpkins0: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Seb86 [6c 7h 5h] [9d]
Dealt to anoll111 [3h] [Qd]
Dealt to pumpkins0 [Ks] [8h]
Seb86: bets $2
anoll111: calls $2
pumpkins0: raises $2 to $4
Seb86: raises $2 to $6
anoll111: calls $4
pumpkins0: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
Seb86: calls $2
anoll111: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Seb86 [6c 7h 5h 9d] [Kd]
Dealt to anoll111 [3h Qd] [Ad]
Dealt to pumpkins0 [Ks 8h] [Ac]
railbirdking is sitting out
anoll111: checks
pumpkins0: bets $4
Seb86: calls $4
anoll111: raises $4 to $8
pumpkins0: calls $4
Seb86: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Seb86 [6c 7h 5h 9d Kd] [9c]
Dealt to anoll111 [3h Qd Ad] [4h]
Dealt to pumpkins0 [Ks 8h Ac] [Kh]
anoll111: bets $4
pumpkins0: calls $4
Seb86: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Seb86 [6c 7h 5h 9d Kd 9c] [Th]
anoll111: bets $4
pumpkins0: raises $4 to $8
Seb86: calls $8
anoll111: raises $4 to $12
pumpkins0: calls $4
Seb86: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
anoll111: shows [8d 2h 3h Qd Ad 4h 6d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)
badcyn said, "wow on a draw 8 hi loser already"
pumpkins0: shows [7c 6s Ks 8h Ac Kh 4s] (Lo: 8,7,6,4,A)
Seb86: mucks hand
anoll111 collected $119 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $122 | Rake $3
Seat 1: Seb86 mucked [6c 7h 5h 9d Kd 9c Th]
Seat 2: badcyn folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: luffeme folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: anoll111 showed [8d 2h 3h Qd Ad 4h 6d] and won ($119) with Lo: 6,4,3,2,A
Seat 5: railbirdking folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pumpkins0 showed [7c 6s Ks 8h Ac Kh 4s] and lost with Lo: 8,7,6,4,A
Seat 7: Robbo folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ttbaseball folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 3:12am   #2
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 4:41pm   #3
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 5:13pm   #4
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I don't even play Razz but your river play makes it look like you hate money.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 8:42pm   #5
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yeah I know but the table has been CRAZY like crazy crazy, look at the guy who 3bet me with a K showing and 4th street isnt much better.

They would play any hand, I had T high (how in hell can you think I have A high, A is low in this game and I dont even have one) and figured it would be good enough against 2 random hand, one had a pair of K showing so I assumed I had him beat and I have seen this other one playing with a brick in the hole and with these pot odds I figured it was a mistake to fold.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 10:45pm   #6
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I don't even play Razz but your river play makes it look like you hate money.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 12:41am   #7
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Not sure why but the Razzamaents have been crazy lately.

I had a guy complete on upto 5th street with K high. (He ended up winning after I managed to convert 642A into a full house).

The play in the WCOOP was also pretty "bad" for the buyin level anyway.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 2:10am   #8
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I think we all know who the biggest donk was here, but you come a very close second. Sorry its true. Anoll played it brilliantly on the other hand.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 3:07am   #9
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I know my call on the river is very bad but can someone seriously tell me I didnt have the odd to call against such player ?

I mean you have to take into account that for all I know those 2 guys are total donk, I have seen them capping the river with Q high vs J high on previous hand.

Anoll played the hand perfectly ? ahah calling 4 bet on 3rd street with an 8 and 4 bet also on 4th street with Q8 is that perfect ?

Trust me he was a donk, he was the guy with Q high on the previous exemple.

That said I am aware that my river call are very very losse but given the size of the pot I believe that even it there was a 10% only that annoll had J high or higher it was a right call. And I do believe that there was more than 10% chance here.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 6:18am   #10
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Even just overcalling is really sketchy but fine you're getting 25:1 and you're the one with the read. But when it's bet/raised to you and you're not closing the action it seems pretty bad, particularly calling the threebet.
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