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Old Oct 21, 2007, 9:25pm   #21
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sure I cant also kick your ass in omaha8+ you miserable tennessee fish
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Table '64418212 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Seb86 (8728 in chips)
Seat 3: ssta (3218 in chips)
Seat 4: 1MRVEGAS (1329 in chips)
Seat 5: DK-Molinero (245 in chips)
Seat 6: MikkeD (5282 in chips)
Seat 7: Bulbus2 (902 in chips)
Seat 8: Kwan Li (2529 in chips)
Seat 9: skeptix (6267 in chips)
1MRVEGAS: posts small blind 75
DK-Molinero: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Seb86 [Js Qc Tc 8c]
DK-Molinero said, "I suck"
MikkeD: folds
Bulbus2: folds
DK-Molinero said, "and don't think"
Kwan Li: folds
skeptix: folds
Seb86: raises 300 to 450
ssta: folds
1MRVEGAS: calls 375
DK-Molinero: calls 95 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9c 8d]
1MRVEGAS: bets 879 and is all-in
Seb86: calls 879
*** TURN *** [Ad 9c 8d] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9c 8d 4c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
1MRVEGAS: shows [8s Jc 7s Th] (HI: a pair of Eights)
Seb86: shows [Js Qc Tc 8c] (HI: a pair of Eights - Ace+King+Queen kicker)
Seb86 collected 2168 from side pot
DK-Molinero: shows [4s 4d 3s 5s] (HI: three of a kind, Fours; LO: 8,5,4,3,A)
ssta said, "you suck? You *sure* you can't come next weekend? "
DK-Molinero collected 368 from main pot
DK-Molinero collected 367 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2903 Main pot 735. Side pot 2168. | Rake 0
Board [Ad 9c 8d 4c Kd]
Seat 1: Seb86 showed [Js Qc Tc 8c] and won (216 with HI: a pair of Eights
Seat 3: ssta (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 1MRVEGAS (small blind) showed [8s Jc 7s Th] and lost with HI: a pair of Eights
Seat 5: DK-Molinero (big blind) showed [4s 4d 3s 5s] and won (735) with HI: three of a kind, Fours; LO: 8,5,4,3,A
Seat 6: MikkeD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bulbus2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kwan Li folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: skeptix folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 10:20pm   #22
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I dunno what Kwan and MikkeD just tried to pull, but its not going to fly.

I gotta run, ill figure points and standings later this evening but right now i think we will call the tourny at the time the dumping started taking place. Kwan gets 1st, MikkeD will get 2nd.

but i would like to get an explanation from them both and i hope we can come to an understanding as to what just took place.

pretty lame, imo.


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Old Oct 21, 2007, 10:22pm   #23
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I dunno what Kwan and MikkeD just tried to pull, but its not going to fly.

I gotta run, ill figure points and standings later this evening but right now i think we will call the tourny at the time the dumping started taking place. Kwan gets 1st, MikkeD will get 2nd.

but i would like to get an explanation from them both and i hope we can come to an understanding as to what just took place.

pretty lame, imo.


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Woah - hang on - I have no idea what Kwan Li did, so please don't start implying there was any kind of collusion!

I just came on to post the hand and say that you should do what is fair, but do not imply that there was any wrongdoing - that is not right!

The fact that you jumped to that conclusion without contacting me is pretty freaking lame btw.

Yes I am extremely f*cking annoyed now!!

Really! F*ck me. F*cking ridiculous to imply that!

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PokerStars Game #12764184474: Tournament #64418212, $10+$1 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2007/10/21 - 16:48:18 (ET)
Table '64418212 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 6: MikkeD (4707 in chips)
Seat 8: Kwan Li (23793 in chips)
MikkeD: posts small blind 150
Kwan Li: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MikkeD [2c 3s 7h 4d]
MikkeD: raises 300 to 600
Kwan Li: raises 1200 to 1800
MikkeD: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [3h Ad Ks]
Kwan Li: bets 900
MikkeD said, "here we go"
MikkeD: raises 2007 to 2907 and is all-in
Kwan Li: calls 2007
Kwan Li said, "lol i gotta go mike"
*** TURN *** [3h Ad Ks] [As]
*** RIVER *** [3h Ad Ks As] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kwan Li: shows [7c 8d 8h 2s] (HI: two pair, Aces and Eights; LO: 7,6,3,2,A)
MikkeD: shows [2c 3s 7h 4d] (HI: two pair, Aces and Threes; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)
Kwan Li collected 4707 from pot
MikkeD collected 4707 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9414 | Rake 0
Board [3h Ad Ks As 6h]
Seat 6: MikkeD (button) (small blind) showed [2c 3s 7h 4d] and won (4707) with HI: two pair, Aces and Threes; LO: 6,4,3,2,A
Seat 8: Kwan Li (big blind) showed [7c 8d 8h 2s] and won (4707) with HI: two pair, Aces and Eights; LO: 7,6,3,2,A
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 10:30pm   #24
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Easy MikkeD, you're right, but it was suspect, i just want it to be all fair and square, thats all.

I didnt mean to offend you and should have chosen my words a bit more carefully, i apologize.


Kwan, Kwan Kwan..........you've made a mess!!!!!!!


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Old Oct 21, 2007, 10:34pm   #26
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Easy MikkeD, you're right, but it was suspect, i just want it to be all fair and square, thats all.

I didnt mean to offend you and should have chosen my words a bit more carefully, i apologize.


Kwan, Kwan Kwan..........you've made a mess!!!!!!!


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OK - I've removed the previous post, but I am absolutely steaming still. I'll accept the apology for now, but please contact Kwan Li before you take this any further.

I said on the table (after he left) that I would chop the money with him, because I presume there was some urgent reason for him leaving. I will wait until he reports back on what happened before I do anything about that also.

BTW - I was going to suggest that we both get 2nd place points + I get 1/4 of difference between 1st/2nd and Kwan Li gets 3/4 of the difference - or something like that, but I really don't care much.
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 10:45pm   #27
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I think we need to wait for kwan to post an explanation.

I railed the whole thing.

Mikke is 100% in the clear. He wasn't sure what to do and almost just sat out ...but then we told him to play on.

All kwan posted was.... "I have to go" we thought he was joking but then he sat out.


I've never had a reason to not trust Mikke and kwan 100%.


My view is something urgent came up IRL.....


If thats the case then its upto you Mr V.
I know moli and mikke are pretty upset - but the POY is meant to be fun so if Kwan had a real emergency its not something that should be punished IMO but the chance of mikke coming back will need to be considered in the points....
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 11:10pm   #28
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Thanks staphros - that post was much appreciated. I have spent several hours today discussing with previous captains of my golf club about whether I am going to accept the offer of Captaincy in 2009, and you know how much cheating is frowned on in that game, so I hope everyone can see why I blew my stack initially.

Anyhow, I have just edited the HH to get the all of the chat out that shows - I think some is missed between hands, but here is the most of it, following on straight after the hand I posted before....

DK-Molinero [observer] said, "what"
MikkeD said, "whats happening?"
ssta [observer] said, "??"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "ehh"

staphros [observer] said, "can you say p-o-l-i-ce- r-a-i-d"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "can'"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "can't leave a poy event at HU"
MikkeD said, "I'll call until he gets back"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "you could just sit out too"
MikkeD said, "I would lose then"
ssta [observer] said, "you call his hand gets folded"
staphros [observer] said, "split points"
staphros [observer] said, "but play on?"
MikkeD said, "Im playing for the cash to"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "how would you lose?"
MikkeD said, "too"

MikkeD said, "damm!"
ssta [observer] said, "what happens if both sit out?"
ssta [observer] said, "chop?"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "wouldn't they just switch blinds"
MikkeD said, "i get 2nd money and 2nd pints"
staphros [observer] said, "blinds get huge i guess"

staphros [observer] said, "and mikke get s pointed"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "but this is stupid .. there is POY points on the line here"
MikkeD said, "I know - what can I do?"

ssta [observer] said, "nothing you can do"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "nothing .. I'm not mad"
staphros [observer] said, "i say play on - but split points if kwan doesnt come back"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "I just think it's strange that he leaves"
MikkeD said, "MRV can contact Kwan-Li and decide what to do"
staphros [observer] said, "parole meetting"
ssta [observer] said, "I imagine pointwise, MrV will think of something"
staphros [observer] said, "gambers anon?"
MikkeD said, "thing is - 2 double ups and iI was back in front"
staphros [observer] said, "school night tomorrow?"
MikkeD said, "so I'm not happy either"
ssta [observer] said, "Mike: you *could* fold button each round"
staphros [observer] said, "mr can give me the points"
ssta [observer] said, "that keeps the stacks reasonably level"
MikkeD said, "OK - I'll fold for a while"
ssta [observer] said, "but the blinds just get enormous then"
MikkeD said, "yah - eventually I'll lose on blinds"
ssta [observer] said, "anyone have IM or whatever for Kwan?"
MikkeD said, "this is silly - MRV can do whatever is fair - I'll chop with Kwan-Li"
staphros [observer] said, "yeah thats best"
ssta [observer] said, "sounds fairest"
staphros [observer] said, "just keep betting mikke"
staphros [observer] said, "saves going to bed at 2am"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "hmmm I'm not at all happy about this"
ssta [observer] said, "I know, but what ca nyou do?"
staphros [observer] said, "give me bonus points?"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "nothing I know .. but the POY is a big deal to me"
MikkeD said, "Im not either Moli, but Im not just letting Kwan win when 2 double ups and Ida been easy leader"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "this will screw up the points"
staphros [observer] said, "mr v will rule on it"
ssta [observer] said, "Moli: I'm sure MrV will do what's fair and right. He's done a decent job so far"

DK-Molinero [observer] said, "you could just as easily have lost"
staphros [observer] said, "and mikke will chop $ if kwan has a real rreason to vanish"
MikkeD said, "I know I probably woulda lost but I might not - I was low on chips earlier, 2 hands later I was chip leader"
staphros [observer] said, "i'd say 50/50 split is fairest"
staphros [observer] said, "with blinds etc"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "because you can't give point fairly now"
staphros [observer] said, "i mean 50/50 money wise"
ssta [observer] said, "Moli: maybe they can have a HU match later or something to decide the points? Would that be fairer?"
staphros [observer] said, "...or roshambo"
MikkeD said, "lol"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "yeah but you can't set up a match with the exactly blinds and stacks"
MikkeD said, "starnge how he just shot off"
staphros [observer] said, "lol inuendo"
MikkeD said, "lol"
MikkeD said, "I'll send Kwan $19 after it finished anyway for now"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "we just have to see what MRV says to this .. bad ending IMO"
ssta [observer] said, "yeah, not the way anyone would want to win or lose..."
MikkeD said, "Yup - didn't want this, because even if we chop the points I lost chance to get max"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "well if it just were the money then it was okay"
staphros [observer] said, "ok guys i'm out gg mikke"
staphros [observer] said, "strange game kwan"
DK-Molinero [observer] said, "gg Mike (and missing Kwan)"
MikkeD said, "cheer - cya staphros"
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