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Old Mar 10, 2008, 4:22am   #1
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Default I now remember why i quit pokerstars...

late stages of a 20 dollar sit and go, i havn't gotten any hands for the most part but managed to stay at about 1500, the other 4 players all above about 2500

i get dealt AK on the button, i raise to 450, i get reraised to 900, i reraise all in, and the big stack calls, leaving him with about 2000

He shows 9-3 off suit, the flop is A-K-J

The turn comes a 9
And of course, the river comes a 9, knocking me out
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Old Mar 10, 2008, 4:32am   #2
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I actually cannot wait until my last $100 is gone from Stars so I can recoup my life without them. Their algorithm/randomizer (or w/e...?) is an absolute f-in joke and I do not know how anyone can consistently win there. It makes you, rather, FORCES you to play bad poker and is terrible for the rest of your game live or otherwise.

Way better off without. Good riddence...
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Old Mar 10, 2008, 5:37am   #3
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I actually cannot wait until my last $100 is gone from Stars so I can recoup my life without them. Their algorithm/randomizer (or w/e...?) is an absolute f-in joke and I do not know how anyone can consistently win there. It makes you, rather, FORCES you to play bad poker and is terrible for the rest of your game live or otherwise.

Way better off without. Good riddence...
Ship me the $100 and I'll ship you $90 at FT - I'll take my chances at PS.
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Old Mar 10, 2008, 7:31am   #4
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I dunno what's dumber, the fact that you are convinced it is rigged or that you are convinced it is rigged and haven't withdrawn yet.
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Good point Waxhaxors. If I thought a site was rigged (Absolute or UB for example) I cash out and move on. I would never leave my money on a site if I thought it was crooked.
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Old Mar 10, 2008, 4:03pm   #6
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I dunno what's dumber, the fact that you are convinced it is rigged or that you are convinced it is rigged and haven't withdrawn yet.
I never said it was rigged. They used be a client of mine when I was in the business marketing for them. They could not be what they are if it was rigged.

What I say is that the algorithms for their program are whacked and you have to play a type of poker that I truly do believe is bad for your game in the "real" world. I do think it favors pooer play overall (like if you're drunk, high, or otherwise altered) and/or super-LAGs. There are a lot of good players on this forum (Skeptix, Swoop, KK, etc.) that have huge variances on PS and their numbers are way better on Tilt.

Obviously, certain players do OK at Stars, but it does not suit my style AT ALL. I still play there cus I actually do OK in satellites (where it's a donkfest and I can clean up) and as long as I can get in to some of the big tourneys cheap, who knows. And, I do like the cheaper double shoot-outs cus they're my best chance to qualify for their Sun. Mil$$ & WSOP.
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Cash games on Stars are fine for me.
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Villain is getting >4:1 on the call. C'est la vie.
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I never said it was rigged. They used be a client of mine when I was in the business marketing for them. They could not be what they are if it was rigged.

What I say is that the algorithms for their program are whacked and you have to play a type of poker that I truly do believe is bad for your game in the "real" world. I do think it favors pooer play overall (like if you're drunk, high, or otherwise altered) and/or super-LAGs. There are a lot of good players on this forum (Skeptix, Swoop, KK, etc.) that have huge variances on PS and their numbers are way better on Tilt.

Obviously, certain players do OK at Stars, but it does not suit my style AT ALL. I still play there cus I actually do OK in satellites (where it's a donkfest and I can clean up) and as long as I can get in to some of the big tourneys cheap, who knows. And, I do like the cheaper double shoot-outs cus they're my best chance to qualify for their Sun. Mil$$ & WSOP.
Isn't there are contradiction there?

PS is supposed to produce a random deck of cards. If it doesn't, and has some kind of algorithm which produces 'coolers', as you seem to imply, then it is obviously rigged.

Please explain this apparent contradiction, as I am confused by your logic here.

P.S. I assume that you aren't taking me up on the $100 at PS for $90 at FTP offer?
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Old Mar 10, 2008, 5:13pm   #10
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Head on over to Full Tilt where every fourth flop is suited and multi-table games get buried out of your reach. Then Stars doesn't seem all that bad.

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