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Old May 05, 2008, 4:44am   #41
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wow drop down man. to 25NL.

' I decided he had 98, while having no reason to beleive so and holding myself half the nines in the deck. I then proceed to push so he could get off easily from his top pair, or own me when he has a better hand.'

Seeing bluffs and semi bluffs everywhere is the ultimate leak, close second is being very good at finding a hand you beat while holding a marginal hand in a big pot
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Old May 05, 2008, 11:03am   #42
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I really have a hard time believing everything you say. I thought that the game becomes more aggressive when moving up the levels, and by the aggression I don't mean waiting for the nuts and then stacking a donkey. I've been expecting to see all those stone-cold bluffs and hard semibluffs. "Play your opponent's hand, not your own."

But now the story you're telling me is that I must give a lot of credit to my opponents. If it looks like they have a big hand, they very likely do have it.
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Old May 05, 2008, 12:09pm   #43
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I really have a hard time believing everything you say. I thought that the game becomes more aggressive when moving up the levels, and by the aggression I don't mean waiting for the nuts and then stacking a donkey. I've been expecting to see all those stone-cold bluffs and hard semibluffs. "Play your opponent's hand, not your own."

But now the story you're telling me is that I must give a lot of credit to my opponents. If it looks like they have a big hand, they very likely do have it.
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Old May 05, 2008, 12:12pm   #44
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Old May 05, 2008, 5:44pm   #45
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I really have a hard time believing everything you say. I thought that the game becomes more aggressive when moving up the levels, and by the aggression I don't mean waiting for the nuts and then stacking a donkey. I've been expecting to see all those stone-cold bluffs and hard semibluffs. "Play your opponent's hand, not your own."

But now the story you're telling me is that I must give a lot of credit to my opponents. If it looks like they have a big hand, they very likely do have it.
I am not going to post any further on this because you really are over your head at $200NL. There is a certain feel and flow for the game of poker and you have not learned it yet. It becomes stronger as you play more hands that is something an internet forum cannot teach you. No one can teach it for you. You have to play and learn and experience it yourself.

You are not ready for $200NL. Gus obviously agrees with me on that. You need to drop down and work on developing and solid feel and flow for the game.

Take our advice if you want. But what you are doing obviously is not working. And all the posters here are winning players.
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Old Jun 05, 2008, 8:57pm   #46
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Hello there, I'm back!

It's been an interesting month. I took all your advice (except not moving down) and thought about it, spent some time off the tables, and now things are finally rolling. More aggression on the turn, less folding to c-bets, more folding to value bets at the river, etc.

Below is my graph after the break. Not a very large sample size, but I feel confident again. I don't feel like giving detailed stats of my playing style, if my opponents read this board too, but let's just say that AF has increased on all streets. I guess I was a bit scared money at first, but now I'm much more confortable with the stakes.

http://users.tkk.fi/mluttine/NL200_2.png

Thanks to Ishbu and others for all the help! I really appreciate it.
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Old Jun 05, 2008, 9:10pm   #47
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Well-done. Hopefully it's permanent.
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