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Old Mar 03, 2009, 3:02am   #1
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if his range is:

TT+ AK+

88+ AJ+

55+ AT+

PokerStars Game #25544803992: Tournament #144032322, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/03/02 22:54:11 ET
Table '144032322 102' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Igor Da KGB (8365 in chips)
Seat 2: PeepOnTheSly (5078 in chips)
Seat 3: Pipedream17 (10466 in chips)
Seat 4: bulletharry (2589 in chips)
Seat 5: jayzmo (4776 in chips)
Seat 6: kid hustlr (9410 in chips)
Seat 7: Porvu_vseh (7120 in chips)
Seat 8: Adog26 (12002 in chips)
Seat 9: JJDude (8153 in chips)
Igor Da KGB: posts the ante 25
PeepOnTheSly: posts the ante 25
Pipedream17: posts the ante 25
bulletharry: posts the ante 25
jayzmo: posts the ante 25
kid hustlr: posts the ante 25
Porvu_vseh: posts the ante 25
Adog26: posts the ante 25
JJDude: posts the ante 25
JJDude: posts small blind 150
Igor Da KGB: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kid hustlr [As Qh]
PeepOnTheSly: folds
Pipedream17: folds
bulletharry: folds
jayzmo: folds
kid hustlr: raises 500 to 800
Porvu_vseh: folds
Adog26: folds
JJDude: folds
Igor Da KGB: raises 7540 to 8340 and is all-in
kid hustlr: calls 7540
*** FLOP *** [5d 3s Jc]
*** TURN *** [5d 3s Jc] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [5d 3s Jc Kc] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Igor Da KGB: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Kings)
kid hustlr: shows [As Qh] (high card Ace)
Igor Da KGB collected 17055 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17055 | Rake 0
Board [5d 3s Jc Kc 7s]
Seat 1: Igor Da KGB (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (17055) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: PeepOnTheSly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Pipedream17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bulletharry folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jayzmo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: kid hustlr showed [As Qh] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: Porvu_vseh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Adog26 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JJDude (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old Mar 03, 2009, 3:19am   #2
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Ugh, he still isn't that short and I don't think his all in range is that wide. In fact with that stack he can flat call with a shit load of hands and see the flop.

I don't think he can merely three bet with that stack. It is flat call or shove. I want to say the range 88+ AJ, but I am actually leaning towards TT+ and AK. I might include ace queen in there. if he had an aggro image maybe you drop down 88+ and AJ, but I really think he flat calls you with ace jack or pockets below queens even to see a flop.
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 2:47pm   #3
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TT+ AK+

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.635% 29.66% 00.98% 18281128 602930.50 { AsQh }
Hand 1: 69.365% 68.39% 00.98% 42155955 602930.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

88+ AJ+

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.870% 35.60% 07.27% 42061823 8588288.00 { AsQh }
Hand 1: 57.130% 49.86% 07.27% 58910577 8588288.00 { 88+, AJs+, AJo+ }


55+ AT+

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.946% 41.50% 05.45% 70346379 9236321.00 { AsQh }
Hand 1: 53.054% 47.60% 05.45% 80699075 9236321.00 { 55+, ATs+, ATo+ }


If he was shorter and you were deeper, I'd consider calling this. As it stands his range probably isn't very wide, and he certainly isn't that desperate to 3-bet bluff you here very often.
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 6:17pm   #4
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thank you kmay.

just so i know im reading those results correctly, do those results suggest its a fold even against his shoving range of 55+ AT+ ?? even with the money in the pot??
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Old Mar 04, 2009, 11:32pm   #5
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thank you kmay.

just so i know im reading those results correctly, do those results suggest its a fold even against his shoving range of 55+ AT+ ?? even with the money in the pot??
If I'm adding correctly, 7540/16830 = around 44.8%. Meaning you need to have that chance to win at the minimum for it to be considered profitable. That is with the money already in there you raised with, and the blinds (and his call of your 800).

So you could call if his range is 55+ AT+, but you aren't making a hugely profitable move at this point.

Basically the problem is that you are dominated by QQ+ and AK, and only flipping with other pps.
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If I'm adding correctly, 7540/16830 = around 44.8%. Meaning you need to have that chance to win at the minimum for it to be considered profitable. That is with the money already in there you raised with, and the blinds (and his call of your 800).

So you could call if his range is 55+ AT+, but you aren't making a hugely profitable move at this point.

Basically the problem is that you are dominated by QQ+ and AK, and only flipping with other pps.

tytyty, ya i know how to do it but i wasnt sure how to read the figures.

effectively if the equity of my hand (column one) is greater than the equity in the pot 44.8% in this case) mathematically its a call. thanks again.
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Kmay do you have some sort of website that calculates those numbers?
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