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Old Jun 08, 2009, 1:25am   #1
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Just posted UTG, no reads.

PokerStars Game #29115007507: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/06/07 21:04:16 ET
Table 'Panopaea IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JERRYLOIS ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 2: cristoufum ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 3: skigirlpc ($6 in chips)
Seat 4: euler217 ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 5: zazou0173 ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 6: avsnow ($16.70 in chips)
JERRYLOIS: posts small blind $0.05
cristoufum: posts big blind $0.10
skigirlpc: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to euler217 [Jc Jd]
skigirlpc: raises $0.20 to $0.30
euler217: raises $0.70 to $1
zazou0173: folds
avsnow: folds
JERRYLOIS: folds
cristoufum: folds
skigirlpc: calls $0.70
*** FLOP *** [5s 2h Kh]
skigirlpc: checks
euler217: checks
*** TURN *** [5s 2h Kh] [9s]
skigirlpc: bets $0.50
euler217: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [5s 2h Kh 9s] [3h]
skigirlpc: bets $0.50
euler217: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
skigirlpc: shows [Js Ah] (high card Ace)
euler217: shows [Jc Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
euler217 collected $3.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.15 | Rake $0.20
Board [5s 2h Kh 9s 3h]
Seat 1: JERRYLOIS (small blind) folded before Flop

I think I played this bad. I should have bet the flop, but is it a bet/fold if raised?
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Old Jun 08, 2009, 1:40am   #2
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Just posted UTG, no reads.

PokerStars Game #29115007507: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/06/07 21:04:16 ET
Table 'Panopaea IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JERRYLOIS ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 2: cristoufum ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 3: skigirlpc ($6 in chips)
Seat 4: euler217 ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 5: zazou0173 ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 6: avsnow ($16.70 in chips)
JERRYLOIS: posts small blind $0.05
cristoufum: posts big blind $0.10
skigirlpc: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to euler217 [Jc Jd]
skigirlpc: raises $0.20 to $0.30
euler217: raises $0.70 to $1 <--- re-raise to isolate is fine
zazou0173: folds
avsnow: folds
JERRYLOIS: folds
cristoufum: folds
skigirlpc: calls $0.70
*** FLOP *** [5s 2h Kh]
skigirlpc: checks
euler217: checks

Checking behind seems unreasonable, it's a dryish board and you don't really want AQ or FD hands hitting the turn, also you don't have Jh leaving no chance for the backdoor flush should the turn bring 3 to a flush. $1.30 should be enough to take this down, if villain shoves it's a bit of a lame spot and you probably have to fold.

*** TURN *** [5s 2h Kh] [9s]
skigirlpc: bets $0.50
euler217: calls $0.50

You pretty much got the absolute perfect turn card, no heart and lower than a jack and the peasant bet = JJ ftw. I would personally make a block-raise here to something like $1.25 because we're almost always ahead and we can check behind on any dangerous river.

*** RIVER *** [5s 2h Kh 9s] [3h]
skigirlpc: bets $0.50
euler217: calls $0.50 <--- River is the flush card so calling is fine
*** SHOW DOWN ***
skigirlpc: shows [Js Ah] (high card Ace)
euler217: shows [Jc Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
euler217 collected $3.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.15 | Rake $0.20
Board [5s 2h Kh 9s 3h]
Seat 1: JERRYLOIS (small blind) folded before Flop

I think I played this bad. I should have bet the flop, but is it a bet/fold if raised?

You didn't play it bad as such, I prefer the term conservative since villain was an unknown who posted UTG normally indicating a gambling tendancy. Was definately played passively and there were squillions of more aggressive lines you could have taken but the conservative/aggressive approach is optimal
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 12:29am   #3
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Looks good. If he calls 1$ pre he'll also call 1.30$-1.40$ so thats what make it.

edit: With the Flush Draw on the Turn i'd probably raise a little bit. 1.25$ as played sounds good^^.

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Old Jun 10, 2009, 10:57pm   #4
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completely fine

turn raise is an option I think calling is better vs most donks
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Old Jun 11, 2009, 1:16am   #5
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Raising the turn is better especially at 10nl, not only does it get weaker hands to put more money in the pot but it also gives you control of the hand on the river
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