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Old May 03, 2010, 12:48am   #1
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Default 11$ MTT KJo BB call/fold?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
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$10+$1

Stacks:
UTG vinizuxo (22,187)
UTG+1 HdOfSecurity (21,880)
MP1 pokrjoker78 (43,223)
MP2 nkgud (127,371)
MP3 2nd over (8,992)
CO pokerj888 (43,222)
BTN DoubleB46 (36,866)
SB pokerstudKK (19,045) 7/7 24hände
BB Hero (47,458)

Blinds: 600/1,200 Ante 200

Pre-Flop: (3,600, 9 players) Hero is BB
7 folds, pokerstudKK goes all-in 18,845, Hero???

Ist es ein call oder ein fold?
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Old May 03, 2010, 1:03am   #2
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Ich würds aus dem Grund folden,dass Villain es noch nicht dringend oder zwingend nötig hat hier den absouluten Obermüll zu shoven. Sonen absoluten Müll wird er hier nicht haben und KJo ist nun auch nicht der Hammer um nun 2/5 von deinem Stack reinzuschieben.


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Old May 03, 2010, 1:05am   #3
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gegen random donk ist es glaub ich ne knapper fold.
gegen nen guten Spieler schon ne call
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Old May 03, 2010, 6:51am   #4
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calling half stack of with KJ? easy muck IMO, du bist hier maximal 60:40
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Old May 03, 2010, 8:34am   #5
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Sehe das wie Motu.

Villain hat durch die Antes 8 eff.BB, d.h. wenn er gut ist weiss er dass und shovt hier any2. Dann wuerde ich es callen (wuerde auch nicht in einen Freudentanz ausbrechen, aber callen).

Allerdings ist hier zu bezweifeln das Villain das weiss. Aus diesem Grund bist Du hier im Idealfall in einem Flip, aber sehr oft nur 30/70 dog.

Daher fold.
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Old May 03, 2010, 8:44am   #6
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Sehe hier oft PP bis JJ oder Push mit AQ+ weil oop... In beiden Fällen siehts nicht gut für Dich aus... Mit Deinem Stack auch keine Not... Halben Stack deswegen zu verlieren würde richtig weh tun, weil Du dann bald agieren musst...

Ergo: Fold.
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call hier nur wenn du weisst dass er atc pusht. ansonsten fold weil die 19k die du verliert sehr viel mehr wert sind als die 19k die du gewinnen kannst!

ohne reads gehe ich standardmässig davon aus, dass er hier höchstwahrscheinlich Ax hält.

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lol what? BvB?
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Old May 03, 2010, 9:42am   #8
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lol what? BvB?
Bei einem 10$-MTT und mit 7/7 Stats (bei der Samplesize aber wertlos)... Jo... Ok, man kann auch Ax nehmen... Aber dann ist es halt immer noch nicht besser als ein Flip. Und PP bis JJ pushen hier häufig... Wenn Villains Stack kleiner wäre, würde ich auch von mehr ausgehen... <=10BB z. B. kann dann Hero mit seinem Stack auch viel leichter callen. Aber hier nicht.

Und zu AQ+... Also ich pushe hier ATs+ mit Villains Stack (wenn BB recht loose callt sonst auch bis zu KTo und sämtliche PP), weil ich sonst am Flop oop bin... AQ+ anzunehmen ist halt vorsichtig, weil man in dem Spot mit den Stackssizes möglichst als Hero eine bessere Hand halten sollte.
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Old May 03, 2010, 9:47am   #9
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Bin ja auch der Meinung dass es ein fold ist, fand nur deine range ein wenig sehr tight ...
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Old May 03, 2010, 11:48am   #10
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Also wie ich es verstanden habe, wenn er ein guter spieler ist,wäre es ein call und wenn der loose wär dann ein fold? hab ich es richtig verstanden???

Was sagt ihr Burns,Motu???...
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