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Old Jul 01, 2010, 8:17pm   #1
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keine besonderen reads oder history...
frag mich nur ob er hier sowas auch mit AJ KJ machen kann?! Insgesamt glaube ich dass der turn nur seltenst seine Hand improved, as played shove?

Ich mein ich kann ihm hier schlecht ne 99 JJ 77 only range geben ?!


$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
CO kartheart ($76.70) 23 / 13 / 1.6, 3bet 5.0, ft3bet 67 %, wts 31 %, w$sd 59% in 461 Hands
BTN Hero ($49.50)
SB IPushForInfo ($107.70)
BB sthlm_shidoo ($50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is BTN
kartheart raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, kartheart calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75, 2 players)
kartheart checks, Hero bets $8, kartheart calls $8

Turn: ($28.75, 2 players)
kartheart bets $11
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Old Jul 01, 2010, 8:21pm   #2
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Hey, das ist ein 3Bet Spot. Never ever fold ich hier.
Aber why pushaments? Ich call das down.
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Old Jul 01, 2010, 11:34pm   #3
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Ich call das down.
Meinst etwa der folded noch?

Wenn er hier noch folded spielt er am River wohl auch unimproved c/f.
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Old Jul 02, 2010, 7:00am   #4
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Meinst etwa der folded noch?

Wenn er hier noch folded spielt er am River wohl auch unimproved c/f.
Keine Ahnung ob er noch foldet. Aber wenn er zumindest noch einen kleinen Teil an Bluffs drin hat wirst du sie mit einem push rausfolden. Und da wir eh nicht mehr folden halte ich einen calldown für besser.
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Old Jul 02, 2010, 9:28am   #5
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Er hat halt JJ oder 99 und möchte nicht, dass Du am turn behind checkst. Er möchte aber auch nicht, dass Du irgendwas marginales foldest, also bettet er so klein.

Naja, vielleicht er aber auch dämlich gespielte KK/QQ, also fold is nicht. Würd's einfach down callen. Draws mit nennenswerter equity hat er hier mMn so gut wie nie, also ist es WA/WB und wir haben keinen Grund zu protecten.
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Old Jul 02, 2010, 6:21pm   #6
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wenn er nicht besonders gut ist, wo 23/13 definit dazu gehoert, dann kann der hier 9x TT Jx und auch T8 QT fd haben.

allerdings hat er keine bluffs (@mat, ohne equity!) weil er flop c/c spielt.

jam rein und hoff er callt 9x, andere option gibt es nicht, da er immer outs hat.
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