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Old Jul 23, 2010, 6:04am   #1
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No reads on villain since its rush

Thoughts on the river?

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Seat 1: bwcoates ($100.90)
Seat 2: jti99 ($9
Seat 3: Andy_C_911 ($573.95)
Seat 4: SwoopAE ($143.30)
Seat 5: danilo18_BR ($142.90)
Seat 6: Mr_Royal81 ($42.60)
Mr_Royal81 posts the small blind of $0.50
bwcoates posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SwoopAE [5h 4h Ad Kd]
jti99 folds
Andy_C_911 calls $1
SwoopAE has 8 seconds left to act
SwoopAE raises to $4.50
danilo18_BR folds
Mr_Royal81 folds
bwcoates folds
Andy_C_911 calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [9s 4d Kh]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE bets $10.50
Andy_C_911 calls $10.50
*** TURN *** [9s 4d Kh] [7s]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE bets $31
Andy_C_911 calls $31
*** RIVER *** [9s 4d Kh 7s] [Ks]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE: ??
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Old Jul 23, 2010, 11:35am   #2
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No reads on villain since its rush

Thoughts on the river?

Full Tilt Poker Game #22524338693: Table Vroom (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 01:01:58 ET - 2010/07/23
Seat 1: bwcoates ($100.90)
Seat 2: jti99 ($9
Seat 3: Andy_C_911 ($573.95)
Seat 4: SwoopAE ($143.30)
Seat 5: danilo18_BR ($142.90)
Seat 6: Mr_Royal81 ($42.60)
Mr_Royal81 posts the small blind of $0.50
bwcoates posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SwoopAE [5h 4h Ad Kd]
jti99 folds
Andy_C_911 calls $1
SwoopAE has 8 seconds left to act
SwoopAE raises to $4.50
danilo18_BR folds
Mr_Royal81 folds
bwcoates folds
Andy_C_911 calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [9s 4d Kh]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE bets $10.50
Andy_C_911 calls $10.50
*** TURN *** [9s 4d Kh] [7s]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE bets $31
Andy_C_911 calls $31
*** RIVER *** [9s 4d Kh 7s] [Ks]
Andy_C_911 checks
SwoopAE: ??
You've committed half your stack and have a full house.

A value bet is the rest of your stack imo. I've tried to argue betting $31 again, but you might as well chuck it all in.
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Old Jul 23, 2010, 12:19pm   #3
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Joey, thoughts?

Ozone, TWLLM, anyone else who plays PLO even?
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Old Jul 23, 2010, 12:23pm   #4
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I don't understand the question. Are you asking how much an unknown rush player will likely call here?
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Old Jul 23, 2010, 1:09pm   #5
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you shouldn't get called but you will, by sets and maybe AK.

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Old Jul 23, 2010, 9:54pm   #6
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If you started the hand with 100BB stacks I just go all in on the river but given your stack size I don't think I would pot this river. Probably bet like 50-60.

Flushes don't like to fold

edit - actually I change my mind.... I think either just pot it to polarize your range... or bet like 42 to ensure a flush calls.

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Old Jul 24, 2010, 5:31am   #7
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I play at a lower level and haven't played rush yet, but I agree with Joey based on how i've seen people play at low levels. Maybe it translates.

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Before reading the responses my answer is bet $45ish. After reading them do whatever joeyjoejr says.


Much of this person's range should be taken up by QJTx hands which means you're not getting anything out of this, but if he has AKxx or similar, or a flush, you'll get paid. He may also have 44xx, as bizarre as that sounds, though for obvious reasons that is less likely.


By the way, call/fold preflop in a vacuum, not raise. There's an old saying that is usually reasonable - in PLO you don't want two hold'em hands. I think it's applicable here.

But, running like swoop, etc.
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Old Jul 25, 2010, 12:02pm   #9
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@Bm the question is how much should I bet on the river

Thanks for the input all. Results wise, amusingly, villain had K7xx here (I potted, he called, lol donkaments etc) but obviously i'm value betting easily against his range. I kinda like the 45ish bet since so few hands call a pot bet, idk... thanks for the input anyway.

@TWLLM - I know my hand is weak, but it's 6max rush plo, I pot super wide when I have position on limpers and it works for me
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