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Old Aug 10, 2010, 7:05am   #1
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
CO ($58.07)
BTN ($113.44) 32/22 (button 43)/36, fold to 3-bet 29 (143 HH)
SB ($73.27)
Hero (BB) ($112.53)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

3-bet for value gegen seine 43% range


Flop: ($10.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.75, BTN raises to $18.60, Hero calls $10.85

bei 100 bb wohl 3-bet get it in auf dem flop(?), aber so deep?

Turn: ($47.45, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $28, Hero calls $28

c/r AI oder ist der call ok? (waren vor dem call $89 behind)

River: ($103.45, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN goes all-in $61.84

ich hab noch $61, jetzt easy fold?

für 100bb wärs nen easy stack off am flop oder auf nem blank turn aber so deep war ich echt lost und hatte iwie voll angst "blind" (i haz flopped 2 pair = nutz) meinen stack zu verdonken. wäre dankbar über comments für jede street...
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 10:42am   #2
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weiß nicht ob die 3 bet pre so standard ist. Gegen seine calling range hast du geschätzt bestenfalls 50% und du bist oop. Wenn aber 3-bet würde ich deep etwas höher 3-betten.

Flop für 100BB joa 3-bet get it in. So finde ich call i.O. und würde blank Turn all in crai. Bin aber nicht sicher ob das 200 BB so gut ist. Sine Range am Flop sind viele Draws pairs + draws, QJ, KJ, KQ, vielleicht JJ (gibts ja nur noch 1 combo) selten QQ, dagegen bist du schon noch vorne.
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 11:56am   #3
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3bet is super gegen den. Aber mach ruhig 6.50$ so deep.

Würde auch größer cbetten. 8.50$
Am Turn würds schon echt hässlich. So deep wird er wohl auch QQ nicht 4betten.
Er muss AK,QJ overplayen und alle NFDs auch nochmal barreln, was ich nich glaube, das du da nochmal callen kannst. Ich folde da.

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Old Aug 10, 2010, 1:22pm   #4
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ohne zu wissen wie Villain postflop drauf ist kann man hier iMo nix wirklich gutes sagen. WENN er mit KT am Flop raised, aber evtl raised er auch nur AT am Flop, usw.; nen paar Infos zu seinen Postflop Tendenzen musste also schon mitposten, weil sonst jeder Ratschlag richtig sein kann, aber halt nicht auf diesen Typen bezogen

ansonsten preflop gegen so ne 3b Station kannste die 3b höher machen. du hast sowieso ne Value-Range gegen ihn und keine echten Bluffs, und dem is egal ob er 4,50 oder 6,50 zahlen muss, gerade wenn ihr deeper seid wird er die 6,50 sowieso callen
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 8:28pm   #5
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der spielt halt genau eine hand so und das ist AT. der hat die hosen deep genauso gestrichen voll wie jeder auf nl50 und 3barrelt bestimmt nicht als bluff. es ist zwar absolut ekelhaft gegen EINE handcombo zu folden aber am river musste raus imo.
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Old Aug 11, 2010, 4:34pm   #6
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Nach seinem flop raise hast du nen bluff catcher. Und ich glaub nicht dass er da blufft. Flop call geht noch, 4 outs und so, aber turn ist nen fold, river erst recht.

preflop musst du dir das gegen nen guten spieler auch nicht unbedingt antun. KJo hittet nicht so oft hands mit denen du 200bb in der mitte haben willst.
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 1:00am   #7
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preflop musst du dir das gegen nen guten spieler auch nicht unbedingt antun. KJo hittet nicht so oft hands mit denen du 200bb in der mitte haben willst.
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bist doch BB, da squeezed keiner mehr, easy call

3bet ist nicht unbedingt schlecht aber wenn du hier sone probleme hast 2pr zu folden wenn einer obv die nuts hat
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 3:02pm   #9
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dank euch. villain hat A7o durchgebarrelt und gezeigt, als ich am river gefoldet habe. das hat er dann nochmal gegen ne station gemacht und wieder alles verloren.

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Old Aug 12, 2010, 3:35pm   #10
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lol.. buddylist
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