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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:50am   #21
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Well he probably should but nobody does...
When was the last time you saw someone getting in 500BB without the Nuts or near Nuts?
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Why would you fold any pre-flop hand. There is always a chance that you might get a gutshot. So why would you fold?
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:20pm   #22
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Well he probably should but nobody does...
When was the last time you saw someone getting in 500BB without the Nuts or near Nuts?

i agree
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obviously, it's always my fault whenever anyone does anything stupid around here.

fucking morons every one of you. there isn't a man in this village that i wouldn't feed into an incinerator for no reason other than to get rid of them.

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 4:09pm   #23
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Fuck cash games, srsly

Shouldn't he be bluff shoving every single hand in his range if we're folding the top of ours (including a hand containing the Ad) in theory?
and if everyone played flawlessly there would be no money in poker.

but villain does not know hero, he never has complete information about hero's skill level, what things he knows and doesn't know and what moves are in his playbook. villain merely knows that most players have difficulty folding here, so he shoves. we also know that most players have difficulty folding here, and that is why villain's bet looks like a vbet to us.

of course, if villain knows we know that this bet is basically always a valuebet, he can try it as a bluff sometimes, and once we know that he knows this, we must start factoring more bluffs into his range. and so villain adjusts once more, and so do we, and it goes on and on and on and on. strangers, waiting. up and down the boulevard their shadows, searching in the night. streetlights, people, living just to find emotion. hiding, somewhere in the ni-ee-ight.

working hard to get my fill,
everybody wants a thrill.
paying anything to roll the dice, just one more time.
some will win,
some will lose.
some are born to sing the blues.
oh the movie never ends it goes on and on and on and on

strangers, waiting
up and down the boulevard
their shadows, searching
in the ni-ee-ight
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living just to find emotion
hiding, somewhere in the night

don't stop, believing,
hold on to that feeling.
streetlights, people

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yeah?

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Old Dec 24, 2010, 12:07pm   #24
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Shouldn't he be bluff shoving every single hand in his range if we're folding the top of ours (including a hand containing the Ad) in theory?
my river vbetting range is gonna have a lot of flushes. in fact, a straight is probably around the middle of my river vbet range.
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