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Old Jan 02, 2011, 10:27pm   #1
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Default NL50 - big draw 3way deep

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($49.25)
CO ($99.54)
BTN ($85.85)
SB ($18.73)
Hero ($70.39)

Stats:
CO: 23/15, 187 Hände, CB 80%, AGG 27%
BTN: 29/24. 4K Hände (mined), AGG 34%, 3B BTN 10%

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, CO raises to $2, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($6.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

River: ($19.75, 3 players)
Hero bets $17

Turn c/c?
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Old Jan 02, 2011, 10:36pm   #2
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Fold preflop
as played donk flop, aber checken ist mMn auch kein Drama. Kannst halt nicht nur sets donken
as played bet turn gut
as played bet river gut
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Old Jan 03, 2011, 7:49am   #3
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Fold preflop normal schon, aber etwas deeper läßt sich doch mit ner Hand wie dieser gut callen!?
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Old Jan 03, 2011, 8:50am   #4
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Fold preflop normal schon, aber etwas deeper läßt sich doch mit ner Hand wie dieser gut callen!?
Bedingt. Problem ist hier, dass Du den Flush fuer die Stacks schon fast vernachlaessigen kannst, weil Du nur sehr selten auf einem Flushboard deinen deepen Stack reinbekommst ohne das der andere einen hoeheren Flush hat.

Und 1-gapper ist natuerlich nicht so der Brueller.

kommt aber vor allem auf Villains Postflop Tendenzen an. Gibt ja genug (zumindest auf NL50) die mit deeperen Stacks straight forward spielen und du so den Pot klauen kannst.
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Old Jan 03, 2011, 9:05am   #5
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warum ist deep nen grund 97s pre zu callen matpio? magst lieber OOP deep spielen? 993 flops und hit flushes sind da naemlich auf einmal wesentlich behinderter.


turn c/r

sonst gut
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Old Jan 03, 2011, 9:13am   #6
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warum ist deep nen grund 97s pre zu callen matpio? magst lieber OOP deep spielen? 993 flops und hit flushes sind da naemlich auf einmal wesentlich behinderter.

Ich kann das nicht so gut erklären warum ich das deep nun lieber callen würde. Denke, ich nehme einfach das Risiko mehr in den Kauf weil sich mehr holen läßt. Andererseits kommt man ja auch speziell von dieser Hand gut los wenn das Board eben nicht so gut kommt.

Klingt das gut?....Hm....ach k.a.
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joa diesen unsinn hab ich schon oefter auch in training vids gerhoert. wenn du nicht nen postflop edge hast dann sind deeper stacks einfach schlechter. und OOP nen postflop edge zu haben ist sehr schwer.

"mehr holen", jo, aber nur wenn deine gegner nich gleichzeitig auch mehr von dir holen

"von der hand trennen", das is unsinn.. mit 44 villeicht weil da ist set oder nicht. aber mit 97 floppst du ne menge kram wie middle pair und gutshots.
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Old Jan 03, 2011, 10:32am   #8
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warum ist deep nen grund 97s pre zu callen matpio? magst lieber OOP deep spielen? 993 flops und hit flushes sind da naemlich auf einmal wesentlich behinderter.


turn c/r

sonst gut
NL-Noob Frage: Warum c/r? Höhere Foldequity oder eher Value wegen den Outs, aber dann hätte man ja besser schon den Flop gebettet, oder wie oder was? Achso, wir sind ja oop. Hmmm

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Old Jan 03, 2011, 10:42am   #9
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NL-Noob Frage: Warum c/r? Höhere Foldequity oder eher Value wegen den Outs, aber dann hätte man ja besser schon den Flop gebettet, oder wie oder was? Achso, wir sind ja oop. Hmmm

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C/r turn ist gut weil CO den King oft betten wird. Er packt sozusagen dead-money in den pot und das können wir mit einem c/r einsammeln.
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