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Old Jan 23, 2011, 7:37pm   #1
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$5/$10 No Limit Holdem

Stacks:
UTG ($1,015)
UTG+1 ($2,878.25)
Hero (CO) ($1,000)
BTN ($675)
SB ($1,561.75)
BB ($2,802.50)

Pre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $25, Hero calls $25, 3 folds

Flop: ($65, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $30, Hero raises to $90, UTG+1 calls $60

Turn: ($245, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $160, UTG+1 calls $160

River: ($565, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ($725)?

Vln eig total unknown, aber sieht tight aus.. keine loose passive Station oder so. (paar Hände vorher hab ich n Stack verloren mit: flatted QQ otb vs UTG auf nem 8J4hh Flop geraist.. kp ob er das gesehn hat)

ok betsizing suckt (neue Seite, neue buttons)..

River?
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Old Jan 23, 2011, 7:48pm   #2
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ich glaub ich geb turn auf.

am river haste zu viele bluffs wenn du AQ jammst, und es hat nen mini bissl sd value. also theoretisch mag ich nen jam ga nicht. paar tank-???-folds wirst aber kriegen, also kann man nicht haten.
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Old Jan 23, 2011, 8:10pm   #3
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ich glaub ich geb turn auf.
why that.. is doch einer der besseren.
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Old Jan 24, 2011, 1:28am   #4
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welche hands folden denn am turn?
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Old Jan 24, 2011, 5:48pm   #5
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Naja... Ich betrachte den Turn ja nicht isoliert.
Nat. hoffe ich auf einige tighte folds, aber vor allem setze ich auf meine 3-6outs + Bluffmöglichkeitn am River.. kann also gute 10Outs nutzen. Is ja eben kein easy/safe Turn, wo er mit Freude seine Overpairs schippt.

Am River habe ich aber das Gefühl, dass es meine Vbettin Range eher verkleinert und ich hier (in seinen Augen) mehr Bluffs habe.?!
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Old Jan 24, 2011, 11:55pm   #6
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ok welche river willst du denn bluffen? bin mir da nich so sicher ob du nen spade ueberhaupt reppst. oder ne straight auf den passenden cards. enlighten me.
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Old Jan 25, 2011, 6:34pm   #7
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na obv Spades.. eben alle Rivers die ich auch vbette mit str8 set Flush bzw wo man davon ausgehen kann, dass Vln ne weiter vrange bettet
ich denke ma er hat in erster Linie Overpair 88+ und 78 + selber paar kleiner FD's, die ich obv beat habe
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Old Jan 26, 2011, 12:42pm   #8
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denke, dass du am river gegen die meisten nen fold bekommst. kommt halt auf den spieler an. gegen unknown bin ich eher geneigt noch mal $425 zu betten.

würde aber ebenfalls meistens am turn checken. fraglich ob wir dann dennoch spades bluffen können?!
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Old Jan 26, 2011, 8:35pm   #9
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joa ich denke schon..

hätte gedacht der Turn wäre mehr so ein StndSpot zum barreln.. weil's imo schon profitabel is
check hasse ich nu auch nich.. aber ich bin doch lieber selber in der Lage zu bluffen, als wenn Villain dass mit seinen busted JTs am River macht auf ne blank
dachte ich so..

anyway.. Fagre war auch mehr auf den River bezogen: bluffen wir ihn as played und mit Turncheck gleichermaßen ?
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