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Old Feb 07, 2011, 12:47pm   #1
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$200 max 1-2 live game. Villain 1 is pretty drunk, plays most hands, very loose, bluffs a lot, etc. Villain 2 seems competent fairly TAG from the little I've seen. I was only at the table about 30 minutes or so.

I'm sitting on ~$180 in the BB and dealt 9T offsuit. 4 limpers including the villains, I limp. Pot is ~$10. Flop comes T96. I bet $10, Villain 1 raises to $30 (this is standard for him if he has top pair through trips) Villain 2 calls without much hesitation. It's folded to me.

I decide to call. If villain 2 had folded to me, I would have just pushed all in, and drunk guy would have called with something like TK. I'm kind of worried about Villain 2, I put him on 87, trips, AT, QJ, J8 maybe (he was late position) I know I'm leaving some hands off.
Turn is an Ace. I end up checking to the raiser. He pushes all in for about $95. Villain two pauses a minute and decides to call. Villain 2 has me covered by about $150. His smooth call made me worry. He seems strong. I think had he pushed, he would have wanted me out of the hand, instead he seems to be pricing me in.
Do I push or fold here? I'm not worried about villain 1, it's villain 2 who I get the feeling from that he's really strong.

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Old Feb 07, 2011, 1:33pm   #2
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I'm kind of worried about Villain 2, I put him on 87, trips, AT, QJ, J8 maybe (he was late position) I know I'm leaving some hands off.
is he really limping with TT, 99, 66, AT?

turn sucks, but it wouldn't be a problem for me because i'd be reraising the flop.

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How about asking him "what do you have? cmon, talk to me :-)"
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Old Feb 08, 2011, 12:23pm   #4
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I did, he didn't say anything to make me think one thing or another. He didn't say anything in fact.
I would have reraised the flop except for Villain 2 had me a bit worried. I suppose I could have "to see where I am" LOL

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I did, he didn't say anything to make me think one thing or another. He didn't say anything in fact.
I would have reraised the flop except for Villain 2 had me a bit worried. I suppose I could have "to see where I am" LOL

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worried? wtf am i missing somthing? reraise flop call shove call if they both shove call if a player grabs his hand out of the muck and reshoves.


As played IDK seems like you can fold if you really feel like he is strong and have an air tight read. I am not folding here after just playing with a guy for 30 min not long enough to get a read I need to fold this. So shove.........


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is he really limping with TT, 99, 66, AT?

turn sucks, but it wouldn't be a problem for me because i'd be reraising the flop.

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1/2 live guys limp everything. AA, KK, JJ etc.. then when they lose to the bb who had 39o they cry around.
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I would have reraised the flop except for Villain 2 had me a bit worried. I suppose I could have "to see where I am" LOL
so what changes on the turn? are you just going to surrender with top two because someone called? okay so he coldcalled a raise in an unraised pot but fucks sake, you have top two, on a T9 flop.

his drawing hands, which you are obviously a favourite over, are significantly more likely to come with you on the flop than they are on a brick turn. give him a chance to overvalue straight draws with overs. if he's made he's made, but he isn't made that much. even if his range is exactly JJ TT 99 66 T9 87, you have like 31% equity. throw in 88 77 AT KT QT JT T8 T7s KQ KJ QJ and you're a 2:1 favourite. if you shove, V2 is going to call with enough shit you beat to make you profitable even without V1 sweetening the pot which he will do much of the time.

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I talked myself into folding. I was convinced of my read on villain 2.

River was a brick. Villain 1 had T6 which is about where I put him. Villain 2 shocked me by having A7 of all things. He was either convinced villain 1 was full of crap and his A high was good on the flop, or I misread his abilities in the short time I was there.

Anyway, I'm too nitty a lot of times.

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I was convinced of my read on villain 2.

River was a brick. Villain 1 had T6 which is about where I put him. Villain 2 shocked me by having A7 of all things. He was either convinced villain 1 was full of crap and his A high was good on the flop, or I misread his abilities in the short time I was there.

Anyway, I'm too nitty a lot of times.

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