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Old Mar 05, 2011, 10:52pm   #1
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Seat 5: Kc ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Ace ($4.96 in chips)

Dealt to Ace [Kc Ac]
Ace: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Kc: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [3d 3h Ad]
Kc: checks
Ace: bets $0.06
Kc: raises $0.20 to $0.26
Ace: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [3d 3h Ad] [Kd]
Kc: bets $0.44
Ace: calls $0.44
*** RIVER *** [3d 3h Ad Kd] [Qs]
Kc: bets $1.12
Ace???? Raise or call?
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Old Mar 06, 2011, 2:20pm   #2
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Game dynamics matter a lot here. KC is usually pretty abc so i like calling, especially since he should 3b AQ a large amount and he's backdoored JT so rarely as well. I'd expect him to show up with A3s, K3s, 43s a reasonable amount of the time with him firing the river as well here, also diamonds are in his range. I can't see any worse hand that isn't AQ calling the river raise (just realised halfway thru writing the post its a 3fl board)

If we want to play for stacks I probably repop the flop; since our range is mostly AK AQ air and fds when we do, we could get a worse ace to float and call off on a lot of turns. We could also raise the turn but it depends how often KC is going to play back with air or herocalldown Ax since our hand looks a lot more polarised than it actually is with a turn raise.

As played call river though. We don't beat much of his raise/bet/bet value range other than maybe AQ and a small amount of Ax.
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Old Mar 06, 2011, 3:53pm   #3
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Game dynamics matter a lot here. KC is usually pretty abc
seriously?

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Old Mar 06, 2011, 4:15pm   #4
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seriously?

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he is not ABC


but lets just say I can all but rule out a flush here (and I did) what then?
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Then it's marginal. As I said, you'd know the game dynamic better than me since i've never played KC heads up. Is KC calling a river raise with random Ax or not?

and KC remember i've only ever watched you play full ring mostly not HU and you're pretty abc tag in that from what ive seen compared to a lot of mtt regs anyway
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and KC remember i've only ever watched you play full ring mostly not HU and you're pretty abc tag in that from what ive seen compared to a lot of mtt regs anyway
exactly, you've never seen me play poker.

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Old Mar 07, 2011, 4:39pm   #7
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exactly, you've never seen me play poker.

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Well I have and here is a true story. Kc made a bet on the river and I tanked and almost called him with ten high in the end I folded and he showed 6 high. This was not heads up hand and not only did he bluff with 6 high he does enough non ABC plays to almost get called by ten high. Tune in next time and I will tell about the big river bet I did call with 44.....
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you have a bluffcatcher on the river
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Well I have and here is a true story. Kc made a bet on the river and I tanked and almost called him with ten high in the end I folded and he showed 6 high. This was not heads up hand and not only did he bluff with 6 high he does enough non ABC plays to almost get called by ten high. Tune in next time and I will tell about the big river bet I did call with 44.....

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Old Mar 16, 2011, 7:58pm   #10
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cant i get a weak 3 to fold somtimes, well also getting calls from weaker aces from time to time as well? a merge.........
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