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Old Jul 06, 2011, 1:51pm   #1
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Yeah, I always thought her best defense was that a train was being ran on her 24/7 during those 31 days. Guess only God knows what really happened!

Sex tape 25% odds or better happening imo.
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Old Jul 06, 2011, 5:56pm   #3
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Yeah, I always thought her best defense was that a train was being ran on her 24/7 during those 31 days. Guess only God knows what really happened!

Sex tape 25% odds or better happening imo.

because of kim and paris I have it @ > 40%
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Old Jul 06, 2011, 9:17pm   #4
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if i wanted this in the rail i would have posted it in the rail......
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if i wanted this in the rail i would have posted it in the rail......
It's because of my train reference...obviously trains need rails har har
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Just read up on the case, looks like they decided she was guilty but the prosecution just didnt have the evidence.
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Just read up on the case, looks like they decided she was guilty but the prosecution just didnt have the evidence.

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By definition, you can't be found guilty if the prosecution doesn't have the evidence to prove the case. Guilt is the outcome of a judicial process, not a statement of facts independent of that process. If people understood that, maybe they wouldn't be threatening to kill the jurors for doing their job as they were instructed to do by the judge.

I think what you mean is that the jury believed it was more likely than not that Casey killed her child, but because there was insufficient evidence presented, there was still reasonable doubt. Hence, she isn't guilty.



This fiasco of a trial has reinforced my belief that trials should not be televised. The public at large does not have the background to properly understand what is going on during a trial, nor were they being given the kind of controlled, explanatory information in the way that juries are given instructions and controlled by the judge. There are good reasons why the rules of evidence exist to control what juries are exposed to. When you televise a trial you remove all those controls, and you end up with trial by angry uniformed mob.



If anything, the media took the complete opposite approach to what was needed, providing wild, sensational and uninformed conjectures. The kind of crap that was being spewed as 'legal opinion' by talking heads on Fox/CNN and elsewhere was overshadowed only by the ridiculous view that the public seems to have concerning the trial process. Apparently trials should take place in media snippets and angry mobs responding to statements out of context, with the onus reversed and the accused subject to disproving random theories from whatever crackpot caller happened to get on the phone with Nancy Grace.


For instance, I would assume most people aren't aware of the traditional common law approach to "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" in circumstantial evidence cases. I watched several hours of 'legal analysis' by so-called 'experts' on the television, and at no point did any of them bother to explain to the viewing audience (who would have no way of knowing) that in cases based entirely on circumstantial evidence, the traditional expectation is that the evidence must be such that no other reasonable inference can be drawn besides guilt. That is a much more rigid standard than when you have direct evidence (e.g. a witness who says "I saw Casey kill her daughter"), where the trial is more likely to become a case of competing explanations. If all you have is circumstantial evidence, the prosecution has to prove that the evidence is consistent with the accused's guilt, and not with anything else but that particular accused's guilt. It's a lot harder to prove a case without any direct evidence, and as I understand it, there was no direct evidence of murder in this case.


I managed to catch some of the summations by the prosecution and defence, and while I can't comment on the evidence as a whole (nor should I - that's for the jury to do, not the mob), the prosecution's case even as it was summed up appeared to have a few holes in it for a circumstantial case. The body showing up disposed of in the community does give rise to the inference that Casey disposed of it there, but on its own it does not exclude the possibility that someone other than Casey dumped the body there. And even if she dumped the body there, that doesn't mean she murdered the child (after all, the woman was extremely messed up - probably should have been a stronger case for not criminally responsible than was ever presented - she might have dumped the child there for a number of reasons including that she is/was mentally disturbed). What the state probably should have done was included some lesser count dealing with what they knew they could prove - that she failed to take proper care of the child one way or another - by going for a child neglect charge as an alternative to the aggravated child abuse charge. Going after only the capital charges plus the lying was pretty risky.


In any event, the cliffs notes are that you can't be found guilty unless the evidence is sufficient, and the public ought to have as much of a say in the trial process as it does in the conduct of complicated surgeries. The mob knows as much about one as the other.
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I think what you mean is that the jury believed it was more likely than not that Casey killed her child, but because there was insufficient evidence presented, there was still reasonable doubt. Hence, she isn't guilty

is their anyone who doesnt know this is what swoop meant?
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