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Old Oct 28, 2011, 1:33am   #1
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Default NL30 sh / JT, standard squeeze Spot?

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($29.62)
UTG+1 ($126.13)
CO ($26.31)
BTN ($30)
matpio (SB) ($29.80)
BB ($35.11)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is SB
UTG calls $0.30, UTG+1 raises to $1.20, CO calls $1.20, 1 fold, matpio raises to $4.35, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $3.15

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players)
matpio bets $5.25, CO calls $5.25

Turn: ($21, 2 players)
matpio bets $20.20,


UTG+1: 25/20
Ft3B: 78%
Hands: 625

CO: 69/19
Hands: 81
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 8:46am   #2
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UTG+1: 25/20
Ft3B: 78%
Hands: 625

CO: 18/16
Hands: 550
Foto3Bet: 79%

So sollte das aussehen, um zu squeezen

As played wird der Fish oft callen und dann hast du Positionsnachteil und deine Hand ist warscheinlich gegen die Range vom Fish noch hinten.
Da musste schon ordentlich Skill/Reads in die Wagschale werfen , um das auszugleichen.

Turnbet zu groß. 11$ und hoffen, dass er A9 / 77 / 88 nochmal callt.

Ich frag mich nur gerade , ob wir dann auch nen Shove callen müssen und ob R n Shove oder c/f is...
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 10:18am   #3
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mit deiner flopsize sollte dein Turnentscheidung schon einhergehen imo
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 10:51am   #4
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Turnbet zu groß. 11$ und hoffen, dass er A9 / 77 / 88 nochmal callt.

Ich frag mich nur gerade , ob wir dann auch nen Shove callen müssen und ob R n Shove oder c/f is...
Du hast aber gesehen dass Villain am Turn nur noch 16$ behind hat?
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 11:03am   #5
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as played passt das so schon.

bischen betsizing tuning könnt aber nicht schaden, endweder klar für 2 oder 3 bets halt.

pre würd ich mir das in der Regel aber sparen, ist ja selbst wenn wir hitten kein sehr angenehmer spot^^
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 11:14am   #6
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Postflop geht es auf dem board gegen den Fisch rein, klar.

Preflop mag ich aber nicht. Du kannst es dir halt rausnehmen in dem spot ne bestimmte squeeze-Frequenz zu haben ohne dass es auffällt und Du nen Nachteil bekommst (bekommen könntest) weil adjusted wird.

Sagen wir Du kannst hier TT+/AQ (= 4.7%) for value squeezen (kann sogar sein, dass TT und AQ schon nicht möglich sind). Du kannst dann etwa die gleiche Anzahl bluff-combos haben. Wenn Du hier mit JTo bluffst, dann kann das zwei Ursachen haben

(a) Du bluffst in dem spot zuviel
(b) Du suchst Dir die Hände mit denen bluffst schlecht aus

Beides ist nicht gut. Es mag dir vielleicht erscheinen wie eine Kleinigkeit, aber es sind einfach viele kleine Dinge, die zusammen über die winrate entscheiden.
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 1:07pm   #7
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Du hast aber gesehen dass Villain am Turn nur noch 16$ behind hat?
Ups. Das hab ich übersehen.
Sry.
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 1:18pm   #8
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ich squeeze ga keine bluffs mit nem fish im pot. QJ,KT+AT+99+ mehr nicht.
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Old Oct 30, 2011, 2:26pm   #9
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