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Old Oct 23, 2011, 6:49pm   #1
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Default NL30 sh / KTs, pre? as played Flop?

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($30)
UTG+1 ($29.55)
matpio (CO) ($33.05)
BTN ($34.34)
SB ($63.74)
BB ($64.84)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is CO
UTG raises to $1.20, 1 fold, matpio calls $1.20, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, matpio bets $2.10, UTG raises to $6.15, matpio goes all-in $31.85, UTG calls $22.65



UTG: 27/19/27
WtSD/W$SD: 36/48
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Old Oct 23, 2011, 7:32pm   #2
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naja pre is schon ziemlich marginal..
da musste postflop n guter Handreader sein, um die Hand wirklich profitabel zu machen

glaub die Leute betten ihre Draws immer selber und c/r hier eher ne nutted Range aus Sets und OP
würde am Flop etwas kleiner betten und den C/r nur callen
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Old Oct 24, 2011, 10:14am   #3
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Wenn im Blind noch Fishe sitzen, können wir dann pre callen auch wenn wir jetz nicht der "Überhandreader " sind? oder gleicht das den "eher " schlchten call nicht aus?
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 4:52pm   #4
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mmn ist das kein call pre außer die blinds sind hyperturbo ATMs und zahlen mit 3rd pair 3 shells.
flop würde ich seinen raise nur flatten.
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 7:03pm   #5
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@ Crowson : ja

Denke schon man muss einiges besser sein als der OR, bzw andere Spieler die potentiell in den Pot einsteigen, damit call hier +ev wird.

Aber is gut zum 3betbluffen obv.

btw. ka. vielleicht isses ja nen déjà-vu aba ich glaub diesen spot postest du nich zum ersten und auch nich zum zweiten mal^^

Denke auch Flop c/r als PFA is nutted, blockst ja auch seine combodraws, auf jeden fall kommste nich >50% rein und hast auch keine FE imo. Von daher nur call.

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Old Oct 26, 2011, 10:35am   #6
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Mal Pre außern vor,
am Flop ich sehe nach seinem Raise auch keine Fold Equity.
Der Einfachheit halber gehe ich hier von einem 12-outer aus.
Der hat am Flop 45% deshalb dürfte das Allin schonmal falsch sein.

Nun frage ich mich, ob ein Call was bringt?
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Old Oct 26, 2011, 10:55am   #7
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Der Einfachheit halber gehe ich hier von einem 12-outer aus.
Der hat am Flop 45% deshalb dürfte das Allin schonmal falsch sein.
not sure if serious
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Old Oct 26, 2011, 10:59am   #8
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Old Oct 26, 2011, 11:29am   #9
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wie kann ein allin mit 45% falsch sein wenn schon ~35bb+ dead money im pot sind? (bei 100bb stacks)
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wie kann ein allin mit 45% falsch sein wenn schon ~35bb+ dead money im pot sind? (bei 100bb stacks)
Jeder Dollar über call kommt nur zu 45% zurück!
Dead money spielt hier keine Rolle!
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