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Old Nov 02, 2011, 12:58am   #1
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Default NL30 sh / 55, Set deep, Linecheck

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($26.86)
UTG+1 ($121.65)
CO ($30.53)
BTN ($37.26)
SB ($25.99)
matpio (BB) ($63.86)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is BB
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.05, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, matpio calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.15, 3 players)
SB checks, matpio checks, UTG+1 bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70, matpio raises to $8.40, UTG+1 calls $5.70, SB calls $5.70

Turn: ($28.35, 3 players)
SB checks, matpio checks, UTG+1 bets $9, SB folds, matpio calls $9

River: ($46.35, 2 players)
matpio checks, UTG+1 bets $25, matpio calls $25


SB: 63/5

UTG+1: 22/18
WtSD/W$SD: 35/82
Hands: 211
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 1:15am   #2
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Villain hat KK oder KQ.

Warum bettest Du den turn nicht?
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 12:48pm   #3
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Villain hat KK oder KQ.

Warum bettest Du den turn nicht?
Ich weiß dass das kein Argument ist, aber ich hatte nach dem Flopcall von UTG+1 kein gutes Gefühl.
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 12:50pm   #4
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Jo, nach flop-c/r würd ich den turn schon leaden; 3-way wird er nicht unbedingt jeden turn stabben dass du da so spielen kannst, valuebet ist schon viel besser denk ich. as played nh
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 3:20pm   #5
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Das heißt euer Stack geht in jedem Fall rein oder wie?
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 4:09pm   #6
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Ja, UTG+1 kann am turn ein besseres set haben. Er kann aber auch AA, AQ, KQ haben. Letzteres ist etwas wahrscheinlicher.

Der Punkt ist aber, dass check-call mMn nicht besser als bet sein kann, ganz einfach aus dem Grund weil seine betting-range stärker ist als seine calling-range. Deswegen ist

Bet > check-fold > check-call.

Der turn ist schon nicht so schön um den ganzen stack rein zu bringen weil uns KK jetzt überholt hat. Damit schlagen uns schon 9 bessere set-combos und nur noch AA, KQ (15 combos) zahlen potentiell für 200 bb aus. Denke mit AA wird er aber auch nicht immer 200 bb committen. Am turn wirst Du aber noch oft genug gecalled werden. Der river ist jetzt super schlecht zum check-callen. AA bettet er nicht am river. AQ möglicherweise aber schon, wobei ich mich da aber auch frage, wovon er gecalled werden möchte. Denke aber, dass er oft nur trips sieht und halt bettet. QQ wird am river dann auch unwahrscheinlicher. Glaube, dass Du oft QQ, KK 88, KQ sehen wirst wenn Du die bet callst, aber folden kannst Du mMn auch nicht weil er (aus welchen Gründen auch immer) AQ betten könnte.
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Old Nov 02, 2011, 5:13pm   #7
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Das heißt euer Stack geht in jedem Fall rein oder wie?
nur weil unser stack auch reingeht heißt es nicht, dass deine line vertretbar ist
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jo turn is bet...

river ist dann schon assig. shoven geht da imo nicht mehr. denke da folded Qx.

kann schon Qxdd haben und betten, also auch nich c/f imo. c/c auch wenns suckt... denk es is sogar möglich, dass er AQdd aufn shove folded, aba aufn check bettet.

e: oder halt iwie ne betsize, wo ne Q einfach cryingcall macht

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