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Old Dec 10, 2011, 12:28am   #1
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Starting a deep full ring table with good reg
He is a pretty big nit FR but smart and aware of his image

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($872.70)
SB ($746.80)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 8
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $15
Flop: ($40.80) K, 5, J (2 players)
Hero bets $32, SB calls $32
Turn: ($104.80) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $68, SB raises to $172, Hero ?


edit over 200 hands i hadnt been 3 betting very much ~12% and he had only defended a few times 70% fold to 3bet this HU session

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Old Dec 10, 2011, 1:51am   #2
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3-ball it to $310 or so and be waiting to snap-call.
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Old Dec 10, 2011, 2:27am   #3
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edit over 200 hands i hadnt been 3 betting very much ~12% and he had only defended a few times 70% fold to 3bet this HU session
makes this a great spot for a naked ace bluff.

need more information to say anything useful.

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Old Dec 10, 2011, 5:22am   #4
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3-ball it to $310 or so and be waiting to snap-call.
lol no way

you srs?

edit: eh i guess it wouldn't be as bad as i thought when i first read it. ugh i dunno, too high to think about this atm.

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Old Dec 10, 2011, 8:43pm   #5
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you dont have any reads to make an adjustment here

so you have to go with the standard against most deep nitregs .. which is

call and reevaluate river

you/the board are blocking most of the lower flush combos T9 / T8 /JT KQ etc blah
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Yes, I'm serious. Maybe I should start taking way more aggressive turn and river lines if my suggestion to 3-bet and get it in here seems like a joke.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 3:43am   #7
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you dont have any reads to make an adjustment here

so you have to go with the standard against most deep nitregs .. which is

call and reevaluate river

you/the board are blocking most of the lower flush combos T9 / T8 /JT KQ etc blah
i would think this is pretty std, i mean villain is an FR nit.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 6:09pm   #8
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Yes, I'm serious. Maybe I should start taking way more aggressive turn and river lines if my suggestion to 3-bet and get it in here seems like a joke.
you really think an FR nit villain is going to shove 400BBs in on turn with worse? i think that rarely ever happens, its 400BBs. And I'm not fully understanding the reasoning for your seriousness. Maybe you should? But until you do i think villain will mostly be folding worse / flatting worse and shove better if we take that line.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 12:23am   #9
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One thing I didnt mention was my betsize on the turn. I think the standard would be to bet more. I had actually typed in 80 something then decided to look weaker with a smaller betsize.

I was trying to get called lighter (and lighter when I bet the river). But I didnt think everything through before I bet and was very much annoyed in the spot I put myself in when I was raised.

But I definitely think he is more likely to raise bluff $68 than $86
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What's the problem with call-evaluate the river line? I simply find it superior with the info you gave out...
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