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Old Mar 01, 2012, 1:22am   #1
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Default NL100 - top set in limped pot vs turn c/r

Stacks:
UTG ($58.91)
UTG+1 ($69.14)
CO ($16.55)
Hero (BTN) ($106.57)
SB ($163.13)
BB ($129.20)


Villian: 24/18 TAG, 9% flop c/r, 9% turn c/r.
Der Rest waren kleine Fische und große Fische.

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3, SB folds, BB calls $3, UTG folds, CO folds

Turn: ($11, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $26, Hero calls $17

River: ($63, 2 players)
BB bets $45

Problem ist, er kann im BB alle 53 combos und einige 85 combos haben. Welche Range gebt ihr ihm hier?
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 2:45pm   #2
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glaube nicht, dass er schlechteres vbettet und bluffs sind nich in seiner range.
is wohl ein fold
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 4:33pm   #3
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Ach nein? Er kann doch gut und gerne 22 44 66 haben.
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 4:43pm   #4
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Mit 44/22 wird er oft den flop donken. 53/85 sind außerdem 32 combos, während 44/22/66 nur 9 combos sind. Straight ist also fast 4 mal wahrscheinlicher als underset.
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 5:06pm   #5
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der callt auch nich 66 5way am flop oop wenn außerdem noch 2 vögel dran sind.

+1 für fold.
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 5:25pm   #6
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85 eher auch nicht hoechstens die 3 suited combos

+ 16 53o halt

deswegen ist pre mitlimpen scheiße.. gerade wenn man am btn ist

sie folden manchmal pre und ansonsten hat 77 nen bisschen sd value (deine handstaerke ist postflop meißtens sehr einfach zu spielen)
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 6:43pm   #7
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was haltet ihr von flop check? oder ist das absurd? die idee ist, dass eh keiner was hat, und ne highcard mit zB flushdraw am turn kann abgehen.
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 10:34pm   #8
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lieber minbet als check gutter, wheel, bdfovers, lala bei den donks.
da is der pot dann meist schon 50% größer am turn. das macht schon was aus.

ich geh erstma davon aus, dass das passivdonks sind, und die turned draw eher c/c als selber zu betten (und dann raise callen).

preflop ja will auch gern raisen aba kann echt behindert mit den stacksizes werden. nur "donk" reicht mir da nich um das zu entscheiden.

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