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Old Mar 13, 2012, 12:40pm   #1
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Default NL30 sh / AK, no 3Bet pre vs. UTG, Flop?

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($52.44)
UTG+1 ($35.73)
CO ($54.37)
BTN ($20.32)
SB ($18.03)
matpio (BB) ($32.38)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is BB
UTG raises to $0.90, 4 folds, matpio calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players)
matpio checks, UTG bets $1.95



UTG: 24/19
CBet: 51/47
Hands: 15k


Denke pre muss man nicht 3betten.
Wie spielt man es am Flop am besten weiter? Einfach c/c usw...?
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 1:35pm   #2
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kommt auf sein raise first an .. aber pre sollte schon ein 3bet sein

flop x/call was sonst
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 2:03pm   #3
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pre lieber 3bet als call oop, IP ist call oftmals besser aber auch nicht immer.
flop c/c, turn give up würd ich wohl spielen.
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 3:15pm   #4
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Würde auch auf sein Fold to Raise Wert auf dem Flop achten... Ich sehe gerade nicht was auf dem Turn kommen soll, damit man mit der Hand glücklich wird...

Ist er 24/19 insgesamt oder auf die Position UTG bezogen?
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Originally Posted by eagletwo;996404 Ich sehe gerade nicht was auf dem Turn kommen soll, damit man mit der Hand glücklich wird... [COLOR=Yellow
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Ist er 24/19 insgesamt oder auf die Position UTG bezogen?
Gesamt. UTG hat er 17/17
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Würde auch auf sein Fold to Raise Wert auf dem Flop achten...
monotone?

da gibts leider keine extra stat.. aber auf der structure auf den stat zu gucken bringt relativ wenig
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 10:11pm   #7
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da gibts leider keine extra stat..
Gibt's nicht? Ich dachte, dass ich das bei HEM hatte. (Vielleicht irre ich mich ja auch. Spiele gerade blöderweise auf bodog einen Bonus ab. Wenn ich gesehen hätte, dass es da nur noch diese anonymous Tische gibt...)
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hab hm2 hab aber noch nicht gesehen das es fold to raise cbet auf MONOTONE flops gibt
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 12:06am   #9
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hab hm2 hab aber noch nicht gesehen das es fold to raise cbet auf MONOTONE flops gibt
ach das meintest du mit monotone ^^ Ich habe mich schon gefragt, was das bedeuten sollte, da einfarbig monochrome wäre. Hat sich das monotone eingebürgert? Ich war lange nicht aktiv und muss bei manchen Bezeichnungen immernoch googlen *g*

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Außer dem kann doch auf dem Turn nichts kommen, was einen so richtig glücklich macht? Ich hasse es zwar AK zu folden, aber hier würde ich es wohl folden. Liege ich damit so falsch?

Ein Karo oder eine 10 verbessert zwar die Hand und macht sie vermutlich zur stärksten Hand in der Runde, aber jede andere Karte bedeutet wohl ein fold, sofern er nochmal raist.
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ist wohl nen turn check raise wenn wir ge2barreled werden. nicht dass ich das zwangsweite empfehlen wuerde, aber die hand ist perfekt dafuer. zu weak das zweite bet zu callen, aber viel equity ohnehin.
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