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Old Mar 20, 2012, 2:07pm   #1
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Default NL30 sh / K2 im 4Bet Spot

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($29.40)
UTG+1 ($24.26)
CO ($30.98)
matpio (BTN) ($29.44)
SB ($30)
BB ($10.50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is BTN
3 folds, matpio raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.55, 1 fold, matpio raises to $6, SB calls $3.45

Flop: ($12.30, 2 players)
SB checks, matpio checks

Turn: ($12.30, 2 players)
SB bets $12.30



SB: 23/15
3Bet: 8%
Stats aus SB Posi: 36/18
3Bet: 12% (17)
Hands: 115


Flop klein betten? Da ich aber auch in so einem Spot mal mit Monstern nur checke (da ich eh am Turn und River all-in kommen könnte) check ich hier halt öfters.

Hm...macht aber iwie nicht soviel Sinn zu checken wenn ich wie hier air habe...

As played...kommt es oft genug vor dass Villains nun ihrerseits am Turn mit schlechten Hands Gas geben da ich am Flop Schwäche zeige?

Reicht die Vermutung aus um nun einfach downzucallen?
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Old Mar 20, 2012, 2:48pm   #2
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flop check geht schon, würd aber betten. turn haste gg manche das problem, dass die da dann bluffdonken und du shoven müsstest damit du die hand gewinnst und das kann uU teuer werden.

as played foldest du niemals TP im 4bet pot für 100b, schon gar nicht nen king.
call turn + any river.
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Done, ty.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 3:08pm   #4
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flop bet jo, so $4 ist gut

sein turn bet macht sehr wenig sinn. du reppst AK, warum sollte er da rein betten. denke er blufft viel da. call erstma, und river vermutlich auch callen.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 5:32pm   #5
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Mal ne allgemeine Frage, wenn man das überhaupt verallgemeinern kann.
Bettet man in 4Bet Spots "grundsätzlich" so klein?
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 5:54pm   #6
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Die Handstrength in 4 bet pots sind meistens tendenziell statisch (weil wenige drawing hands in 4 bet (calling) ranges einbauen). Mit statischen Ranges will der Spieler, der die stärkere Range hat, mit gleichgroßem Bets (im Verhältnis zum Pot) bis zum River all-in kommen. Das macht die Bets sehr klein.
Die untere Grenze beim Sizing ist erreicht, wenn es für den Gegner +EV wird wegen der Odds zu callen und seine Outs zu chasen, was offensichtlich nicht Sinn der Sache ist für den Aggressor.

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