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Old May 05, 2012, 11:32pm   #1
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Default NL30 sh / KK im 4Bet Spot auf Axx, oop

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($28.80)
UTG+1 ($30)
CO ($27.38)
BTN ($31.15)
matpio (SB) ($31.77)
BB ($35.91)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 6 players) matpio is SB
UTG raises to $1.20, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.30, 1 fold, matpio raises to $7, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO calls $3.70

Flop: ($15.50, 2 players)
matpio checks, CO checks

Turn: ($15.50, 2 players)
matpio checks, CO checks

River: ($15.50, 2 players)



UTG: 33/11

CO: 21/19
3Bet: 20% (20)
Hands: erst 65


Mag den Flop check irgendwie schon nicht. Wenn er da bettet kann ich doch fast immer folden?

Nachdem Villain Flop und Turn nur checkt kann ich ihm kaum Ax geben, insofern möcht ich da fast schon for value am River betten. Er bettet doch selbst kaum , callt aber vlt. eine Bet mit TT, JJ, QQ
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Old May 05, 2012, 11:40pm   #2
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er callt nie am river imo .. ueberleg mal was du repst wenn du bettest

turn kann man betten.. flop check ist gut
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Also ich seh da jetzt keinen Unterschied zwischen Turn oder Riverbet.
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Am Turn hat man Semibluffs und Double Barrels. Ist schon deutlich mehr Waffengewalt = > mehr Bluffs von dir => mehr Calls von ihm => mehr Value mit KK
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Old May 06, 2012, 1:15am   #5
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nur leider sind cold 4bet bluffs hands meist Ax, oder werden zumindest so gesehen

denke du hast maximal eine kleine bet value in der hand. down checken is auch ok. wenn du betten willst, ist die stelle an sich egal. solltest wohl die street nehmen, die am besten fuer deine anderen ranges ist. Also wenn du QJ am flop aufgibts, turn auch, und dann river doch staben willst, dann spiel KK so. Wenn du meinst du cbettest alle bluffs, dann ist wohl KK auch ne cbet.
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Old May 06, 2012, 8:59am   #6
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Das ist kein spot, in dem ein cold 4bet bluff Sinn macht. Ohne A-blocker wäre es ziemlich -EV und mit A-blocker ist es vermutlich auch nicht +EV. Keine Ahnung, ob die NL30 regs das wissen und ob dort überhaupt cold-4bet-bluffs gespielt werden.

Deine Hand sieht doch genau nach dem aus was sie ist: Entweder KK oder QQ. Sehe da keine value-bet mehr.

Interessanter finde ich, was wir am river machen wenn er bettet.
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